c64 - its back and its badass!

[haywirepc]

Thanks to an old friend, I found another old friend again... a breadbox c64.

I even got the xecable with this,to use a windows98 or dos pc as a hard drive...

Took awhile to get it working with c64hdd, and one big problem still remains...

I am using windows98, which does not support long file names. Almost all c64 disk images use long file names, so while its half working... (I have to load disk images in vice to see what the prg file names are, before loading on the c64 side) I would like to get windows 98 supporting long file names so I don't have to keep switching back and forth trying to load stuff...

Anyone know how to get windows 98 or dos to support long file names? I use the windows 98 computer for other things (fasttracker II and dos games) so I'd rather not just install freedos,(which does support long file names) but I suppose I will if I have to.

Renaming the disc images to shorter file names does not work, because the files contained within the disc image still has long file names often... so they generally just do not display when you LIST on the c64...

I'm half way to c64 heaven. The sounds of sid fill my studio... Once again!

:laugh1:

Just gotta figure this out so I can stop driving myself crazy switching back and forth between vice and the real c64...

[commodorejohn]

Badass

98 should support long filenames from the get-go...do they work elsewhere on the PC? It might be something to do with the cable software.

[paul1981]

Thanks to an old friend, I found another old friend again... a breadbox c64.

I even got the xecable with this,to use a windows98 or dos pc as a hard drive...

Took awhile to get it working with c64hdd, and one big problem still remains...

I am using windows98, which does not support long file names. Almost all c64 disk images use long file names, so while its half working... (I have to load disk images in vice to see what the prg file names are, before loading on the c64 side) I would like to get windows 98 supporting long file names so I don't have to keep switching back and forth trying to load stuff...

Anyone know how to get windows 98 or dos to support long file names? I use the windows 98 computer for other things (fasttracker II and dos games) so I'd rather not just install freedos,(which does support long file names) but I suppose I will if I have to.

Renaming the disc images to shorter file names does not work, because the files contained within the disc image still has long file names often... so they generally just do not display when you LIST on the c64...

I'm half way to c64 heaven. The sounds of sid fill my studio... Once again!

:laugh1:

Just gotta figure this out so I can stop driving myself crazy switching back and forth between vice and the real c64...

I love that photo! Where's the red power light though?

[NovaCoder]

Thanks to an old friend, I found another old friend again... a breadbox c64.

Nice, now go pay some games and some chip tunes

Are you going to do the stereo SID mod on this?

[haywirepc]

I don't know why the power light did not show up in the photo, its red and it works...

On the stereo sid mod, yes! I even have a spare sid chip I got with this. (actually I got two c64's one with a bad keyboard and one with some video problems, from two, made one good and the rest is spare parts. Sid chip on spare machine is socketed! Bonus!

No 98 I don't believe fat hd supports long file names from the getgo...

I believe there is some kind of add on that will enable that? Anyone?

Steven

[haywirepc]

I forgot to mention, the photo IS great, thats a huge tv with SVideo input, so the image is really clear... for most things anyhow. I won't be doing any word processing, so I think that tv/monitor will work awesome. It also has audio amp outputs so I don't need the audio out mod on the actual c64...just run the outs from the tv... I see some sid synth sampling in my near future!

[LoadWB]

No 98 I don't believe fat hd supports long file names from the getgo...

Windows 95 started the support for long file names.  98 absolutely supports LFN.

[haywirepc]

well this software c64hdd runs in a dos box or in dos mode. Perhaps thats the problem? Is there some way in win98 to check on or enable lfn?

[agami]

Windows 95/98/Me supported long file names in explorer but not in DOS. They made it work by implementing a metadata field and DOS file names were truncated to FILENA~1.EXT

In the industry we refer to this as a 'hack'.

[LoadWB]

Windows 95/98/Me supported long file names in explorer but not in DOS. They made it work by implementing a metadata field and DOS file names were truncated to FILENA~1.EXT

In the industry we refer to this as a 'hack'.

Only partially true.

[haywirepc]

OMG that was my windows 95 desktop... really. I remember being all groovy having the plus additions. That was science I think... I used it alot

So how to fix this easily?

Allright, if no easy fix presents itself, I see there is a big section on lfn in the c64hdd docs. I will have to RTFM I think...

Just thought someone here already did this and there had to be an easy fix...Otherwise I guess I'm fine just so long as I know the prg file names for the disk images to load. Its so much fun seeing a c64 running demos and games again, but like the amiga, I especially enjoy just running the demos.

What fantastic lengths people pushed this amazing little machine to. Its quite a worthy predecessor to the amiga line.

And you have to know alot of the c64 ideals went into amiga...

So Loadwb, please enlighten us all as to how you did this. I'm pretty sure alot of guys may have a c64 AND a windows 98 machine in their closet...

[LoadWB]

There's no special trick to what I demonstrated.  Windows 95 and up handle LFN right out of the box.  Now, the APPLICATION may not support LFN, in which case you would need to correct the file structure to reflect that.

[commodorejohn]

Honestly what I'd do is just get a disk-imaging utility like ImageCreator and use it with your PC transfer utility to write disk images to physical 1541 media. That'll circumvent the problem entirely.

[haywirepc]

Commodorejohn, I respect your experience but should explain :

I have just a breadbox c64 and tv/monitor. I have an cable connecting to my windows 98 machine next to it running c64hdd. I don't have a 1541 or floppy of any type, nor tape machine. This 98 machine is my only means of accessing or loading software.

I don't know what happened, but I copied files from a windows 7 pc to the windows 98 pc (c64 disk images) and they copied with the trunciation of anything past 8 characters.

They have what I had known to be the usual win98 thing something like say a filename like sidcityblasters.d64 becoming sidcityb~.d64

When I try to load the disc image on the c64, I only see the first line of the usual list command listing. (So I'm looking at winvice to see the prg file name and loading it blindly but it works in most cases)

Just another reason to hate microshaft... Can't even be a file server for a 20 year old c64 correctly!

Steven

[LoadWB]

Just another reason to hate microshaft... Can't even be a file server for a 20 year old c64 correctly!

Tons of others make it work... I don't think this is a Microsoft problem :razz: