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Offline ThemambomanTopic starter

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2013, 06:26:01 PM »
I plan to post the dimensions and weight of the sealed package tonight if anyone is curious about shipping costs.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2013, 07:00:39 PM »
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I wish that I had the option for ObamaCare eight years ago when I had to have surgery, but neither my job (a small business) or my school offered any health insurance.  Result was that I had to pay the entire cost of my surgery upfront, on credit cards, before the doctors would lift the knife.  Interest and fees on those cards soon spiraled out of control, it ultimately took me seven years to pay off this debt.  All because we didn't have a comprehensive healthcare system that covers everyone in this country.  You Texans, I will never understand you!  ;)

Anyhow, back on topic, looks like a great system and good luck with your sale!  :)

You should have spent the money on a flight to the UK and had the op done for free. ;)
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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2013, 10:12:51 PM »
I was joking about health care in the context of people not trusting cash or postal money orders; could we stick to Amigas for discussion.

The "T" under discussion needs pictures to loosen the pocket books.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2013, 12:26:01 AM »
1. Why are ppl talking nonsense politics on an amiga site

2. This is an odd way to sell this totally silly. If you have such good ebay ratings list it on ebay or just put up a price. The current format is absurd and scaring away many potential buyers (like me for instance)
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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2013, 03:26:52 AM »
danbeaver:

Pictures are here:
http://imgur.com/a/WuuLj#0

magnetic:  last time I sold a 4000T, Ebay hit me up with ENORMOUS fees, like 10% of the final price. Then paypal hits me with a percentage charge on top of their fees as well.  It was a pretty big byte.

Some suggested I use Amibay.  I thought about it.  I don't particularly like the idea of setting a price, then seeing if anyone bites.  Too low and I miss out, too high and no one takes me seriously anymore.

This was just an experimental way of taking silent bids, ones where the potential buyers aren't influenced by others.  Just look at the description and pictures (linked above), and determine what you think it is worth and then make the offer.  

I only posted my ebay feedback to show that I follow through on the deal.  I actually want this machine out of here, I need the space (and the the cash won't hurt too).

Would you feel better if it is on Ebay?  Worried about buyer protection?  Paypal does offer that.

I'm also trying to finalize the use of Amazon payments.  I do believe they offer buyer protection as well.

If you want more pictures, I can take them, although that would mean having to unpack it again.

I'll do it if you want.  

I'm taking bids until Sunday night.

All of the cash bids have surpassed my reserve, so someone is going to get it.

Feel free to ask any other questions.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2013, 03:36:31 AM »
I understand the fees its insane ebay has raised there rates consistantly over the years. I do sell on there now but used to years ago. These costs are absorbed in the sale. you will get a good price i'm sure. The real disconnect for me is that the bids are "secret" dont use Amibay whatever you do but at least there you can see the bidding. I really think its much more fair to show the current bid.

btw i'm not saying this to give you a hard time i am interested in the system.
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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2013, 03:46:05 AM »
Well, I saw the Commodore 4000T that bitman was trying to sell.  

He was posting highest bids on his blog and it appeared to me that it would be easy to manipulate the potential buyers by posting fake bids just to drive up the prices.

I also saw a potential problem:  what if more than one person bid the exact same amount and this was higher than all other?  2nd chance bidding?  Again, it seemed like it could be a recipe to artificially squeeze out more money, so I decided to just say whoever got that highest amount in first.

I guess the only way to make people feel better about it is to have a 3rd party consignment house.  Unfortunately, as you have said, very high fees result.  I hate to have to ask the buyer to cover those fees on top of the shipping costs and the price of the object.  

Maybe I should have done Ebay.  Too late now,  I have bids on this and someone is going to win it!

If I decide to sell any other machines (and I'm not sure about that yet), I may go back to Ebay, but I hate to give them so much cash when they only provide an auction portal for us to use.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2013, 03:48:55 AM »
Update on the packaged deal:

Dimensions:  25" x 25" x 14"
Weight:  49 pounds

I was surprised it was that heavy.  It does include the tower, with all the goodies inside, as well as a keyboard, mouse, converter box for the hydra ethernet card (so you can get rj45 connector), a stack of floppies and extra drive brackets.

There was a lot of packing material, lots of styrofoam, bubble wrap, etc.  It's VERY tightly packed.


Edit: Postal calculator is here:
http://postcalc.usps.com/
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2013, 04:02:07 AM »
Update on payment methods.  Some don't like Paypal.  Understood.  I'm setting up Amazon Pay to be another method.

Unfortunately, they can't verify the account online.  They have to do it the old fashioned way (make a couple of tiny deposits during the next week and I log and tell them the amounts I saw).

Sadly, this is going to take over a week it appears.  So, if you hate Paypal but want to get this machine, you'll have a delay due to the verification of Amazon.  

I'll update as soon as it is verified.

Oh, and I'm still taking bids until Sunday 11:59PM (near midnight, EST (USA))

I've some private offers already and they were more than my reserve so someone is going to win this weekend.

Thanks!
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2013, 04:27:16 AM »
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He was posting highest bids on his blog and it appeared to me that it would be easy to manipulate the potential buyers by posting fake bids just to drive up the prices.

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Exactly and you  still havent revealed the current "bid" price..
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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2013, 08:59:39 AM »
I am certain that Themamboman is a straight up and honest bloke, however this half baked way of selling the A4000 feels shaky and dangerous. Good luck to whoever buys it.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2013, 12:25:56 PM »
Hope the new owner will actually use it and not just leave it in the box hoarding it !
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2013, 02:35:03 PM »
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Exactly and you  still havent revealed the current "bid" price..


Again, I was trying NOT to influence what someone might offer.  By stating the highest of the offers I've received by PM would do that.  Here are just two ways doing that would alter things:

1) I could post a false offer, thinking that one of those that did already offer something lower than that to panic and bid more than they already had

2) I could post the true high offer, and if it was lower than someone would be willing to bid, then they'd just lower their offer to that value + 1.

I've recently been trying to purchase a home and I've been running into this concept.  The seller gets multiple interested buyers. The way to resolve it is to call for the "highest and best".  Then it's simple, gather them up and pick the highest one.  

Since no one would know what others offer, it wouldn't affect theirs.  Just determine what it is worth to you (and what you can afford) and offer it.


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I am certain that Themamboman is a straight up and honest bloke, however this half baked way of selling the A4000 feels shaky and dangerous. Good luck to whoever buys it.

I've been a bit disappointed that in how others have viewed this with so much mistrust.  I saw a few different ways I could do this:

1) Using something like Ebay, which would charge enormous fees, and either I had to cover that or lump that fee into the final price for the buyer

2) Stating a price on a site like this, amibay, Eab marketplace.  By stating a price, I run the risk of undercutting myself or so overshooting in what I ask for that no one takes me seriously

I've also seen more than once, when someone posts something like "How much is my Amiga worth" (includes a detailed description of the machine), followed by one or more posts saying "check your PM", then finally, the OP says "SOLD".   Meaning, the OP stated what he had, but wasn't sure what to ask, then he starts getting offers by PM until he sees one he likes, and the deal is then struck.

This is very similar to that, except that I put out a 1 week time limit to give potential buyers time to see the post before it was gone.  I sold an A4000T back in June and the biggest complaint was that it sold before most had a chance to even read about it.  

I *thought* doing something like this would give a wider audience more time to react and maybe take some time to think about what they'd be willing to pay for it, as well as not undercut or overshoot the price range, as well as avoiding huge auction site fees.

I guess if this was an item that wasn't potentially expensive then it wouldn't be such a big deal. Understood.

I've offered to take more pictures and post them to prove I have the machine (even though I've fully packaged the whole bundle up), but no one has asked.  I also put out my ebay profile link as a method of showing that I'm going to follow through and someone is going to get this ( you can look at that profile and scroll down to see the previous a4000T I sold and the buyer's feedback).

Anyway, I don't suppose I'll do anything like this again.  I've received some offers so far and will ship the Amiga out as soon as payment clears (after the Sunday deadline).

I am going to ask the winner to post a followup in this thread, stating they'd received it in order to prove that I followed through and that this as legit.  Maybe those that want an A4000T and could have had it but didn't participate in this offer will realize that they shouldn't have worried.

But, everyone has a right to be suspicious.  Can't fault anyone for that.
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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2013, 03:17:10 AM »
These are large well designed machines with well thought out layouts and durable motherboards.  They upscale well with 5 external bays, have two video slots plus have both a reliant SCSI 2 and IDE bus. There are extra cut out ports for USB, video, SCSI3, etc.; they have a reset switch and an external AT-style battery connector for those unwilling to remove their coin cell. Their only failings are weak onboard sound and an internal hard drive location above the CPU card.

You will never regret owning one.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2013, 04:44:17 AM »
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These are large well designed machines with well thought out layouts and durable motherboards.  They upscale well with 5 external bays, have two video slots plus have both a reliant SCSI 2 and IDE bus. There are extra cut out ports for USB, video, SCSI3, etc.; they have a reset switch and an external AT-style battery connector for those unwilling to remove their coin cell. Their only failings are weak onboard sound and an internal hard drive location above the CPU card.

You will never regret owning one.


These machines are tough!  Agreed about the harddrive location.  I had to take the front off the machine to remove that when doing some cleaning inside.  I was tempted to leave that section of bracer out but it appears to be part of the stabilization of the case.  It's like a tank compared to my PCs.

There is no daughtercard due to the room inside to lay everything out on a single board.

Having a coin style battery was very nice as well.

My only wish is that this had been an 060 machine instead of an 040.
 

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Re: Amiga Technologies A4000T - RTG, 68040, ethernet, 16MB
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 04, 2013, 05:04:03 AM »
I just added a three hdd drive bay above the PSU on mine. Didn't have to modify any of the original hardware and it fit nicely.:biglaugh:
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