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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #59 from previous page: July 28, 2013, 03:09:21 AM »
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I think PPC is dead end and stays dead end. There will be no growth with PPC, no new users and no future.

Somehow they keep diging CPUs. And they are not bad at all, take away consideration that you probably have stronger x86 already, or if you need one, you can go to the local store.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2013, 01:15:10 PM »
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How so?

BBRV had nothing to do with MOS until after Bill McEwen decided not to use it as OS4 on the advice of the proven liar Ben Hermans.


OK, you seem to be right and BBRV was only involved from 2001 on and I am projecting some of the behavior of Ralph Smidth & co. to Bill. Remember that before this OS4 vs MorphOS you also had other fights like PowerUp vs WarpOS where AFAICR Ben Hermans was not involved. These things play a role when deciding who you ask to develop software for you.
Each of the camps had their own personalities and the situation was like children blaming the other starting the fight. So painting Ben Hermans as the satan and not looking at the other side is doing history injustice.

Luckily most people have moved on. I don't see discussion in AROS world of how bad MOS or OS4 is. Nor do I see these post from OS4 people on MOS; the devs only comment on practical questions and don't react on these offensive comments anymore. Only in the MOS world there seem to be some die-hards who can't leave the past behind and try keep on stirring the pot.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2013, 02:48:03 PM »
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Buck still has Andre Siegel.


I am not currently working for Mr. Buck.
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2013, 03:08:53 PM »
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I am not currently working for Mr. Buck.


Sorry, I made that false assumption due to our contact related to power2people.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2013, 06:26:52 PM »
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Each of the camps had their own personalities and the situation was like children blaming the other starting the fight. So painting Ben Hermans as the satan and not looking at the other side is doing history injustice.
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Oh no, he's the devil incarnate.  How dare he fund the best coders our community had to write a modern OS for us
You would be surprised how few key developers actually received any funds and for how long. While specific components did advance faster thanks to funding, others were severely delayed due to the fallout surrounding unfulfilled commitments.

Looking strictly at the software side of things, it is difficult to definitely say whether or not the involvement had a positive or negative net effect. In the end, even people with intimate knowledge of the situation can only speculate about this matter.

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Bill Buck did. For less money too.
Unlike the makers of the original Pegasos mainboards, Acube and A-Eon are still developing and marketing PowerPC-based hardware today. So, in this regard, one might argue that they have the better, more sustainable pricing models.
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2013, 03:18:54 AM »
I don't understand why he won't say how many units they sold...

What is his a secret agent and no one can know how many they sold?

Its a valid question...

Kind of ridiculous.
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2013, 03:28:51 AM »
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I don't understand why he won't say how many units they sold...

What is his a secret agent and no one can know how many they sold?

Its a valid question...

Kind of ridiculous.


He did say 'less than 2000', this is the best answer given to date.
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2013, 04:14:01 AM »
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The only thing I don't like is the probable lack of AltiVec. Otherwise great news, even if the price is not what we wanted.


Yep, the processors Trevor is considering (P5020 & P5040) lack AltiVec instructions.
There planed successors (T5020 & T5040) return them (even improve on them).
But the processors Trevor is considering already exist (at up to 2.2 GHz).
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2013, 09:00:54 AM »
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I don't understand why he won't say how many units they sold...

What is his a secret agent and no one can know how many they sold?

Its a valid question...

Kind of ridiculous.


It's perfectly normal not to give that kind of information out.

How many Pegasos and Pegasos 2s were sold, incidentally?
For that matter, exactly how many Amiga 1200s were sold?
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2013, 09:05:52 AM »
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It's perfectly normal not to give that kind of information out.

How many Pegasos and Pegasos 2s were sold, incidentally?
For that matter, exactly how many Amiga 1200s were sold?

Amiga 1200 sales, that's an easy one. It was more than a million and less than a billion.

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2013, 09:24:27 AM »
I believe that okay. Maybe I could build a Amiga.  I do have a floppy drive and Ide dvd burner. I do have Ide hard-drive.  

I am concern that  nobody hitting the 500-700 dollar range.  If  someone did all in one  keyboard case, mouse, arm CPU and motherboard. Uses sd card for the operation system storage device. If the end user wanted to add a dvd drive they add it themselves.  AEROS as the main system. Would that be a worth while option?
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2013, 10:19:56 AM »
Nice interview. I'm just amazed that his experience of bring the X1000 to market didn't really make him call it quits and move on (like a certain other person people been going on about it).

Its is a real shame that the market is split 3 ways (Os4, MorpthOS, aros) I think together the platform would of been so much more developed and much better software supported but I can understand why when people where unhappy with either the direction of the official platform was going or thought it was dying of, developers, users and investors thought there a better way and just not having the copyrights, trademarks, or source code is going to stop us. I think more users need to think like they do and think if I'm not happy with what OS4 is doing I'm going to support what I wanted the Amiga platform to be, and due to these three different platforms you likely find what you want and just be happy with the fact that others do think like you and need all the support they can get.

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2013, 03:40:59 PM »
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Then he isn't a very good businessman if that's his attitude.


Investing in Amiga motherboards doesn't indicate good business sense either. I appreciate his nonsensicalness...
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2013, 03:44:38 PM »
Never mind...
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2013, 03:58:56 PM »
People often think that "investing" money in my A4000 isn't sensible either.
Never stopped me, though :)
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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #74 on: July 29, 2013, 07:06:50 PM »
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