Amiga 600: How to upgrade to WB 3.1?

[paul1981]

Thanks a lot Mike :-) The default tool is set to "Installer", so I don't think the problem is here.

I'll try to download the newer version of the Installer tomorrow. Hopefully that will fix it! :-)

Like Mike says, change it to "C:Installer" (without quotes).
Not sure why C: isn't in your command path but that's another question entirely. More likely is that the Installer command isn't in C: to begin with.

Incidentally, the installer command doesn't get copied over to the hard drive when you install Workbench. This can be done manually by locating the file on the Install3.1 disk and copying it over to C:.
Using that new version though that Mike suggests is a good idea because there's a lot of install scripts that don't work with the old version of the installer command anymore.

[Matt_H]

A default 3.1 install puts the tool Install in C: but not Installer. They're different

[andersbm]

A default 3.1 install puts the tool Install in C: but not Installer. They're different

@Paul81: Ha ha ha! See this is what I absolutely love about the Amiga and Workbench: When you get advice like the good one you just posted to me, you initially think "no way! It can't be that simple". BUT IT IS! Your advice worked perfectly and as @Matt_H wrote above, I did indeed have "Install", but no "Installer".

I copied the Installer from my 3.1. install floppy and VOILA! Now WHD Load is installed and I'm downloading Killer Gorilla and Retroplays massive packs. Looking forward to see just how many (or how few!) games will actually play on my Amiga 600 ;-)

Bottom line is: Thanks for all the kind help!

2 questions:

- Why is there a tool called "Install" and not "Installer"?
- I need to find a good unzip program to unzip Retroplay and Killer Gorillas WHD Load packs. Any recommendations?

Cheers from Copenhagen
Anders

[andersbm]

Try checking the icon tooltypes for the installation script.  Is its default tool set to C:Installer?

You may also want to update to the latest version of the installer tool for 3.1, here:

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/TechDetails3.htm

(7th down on the list under "Component")

By the good advice of @Paul81 and @Mike_H I found a fix to my problem. Simply copied the "Installer" from my WB 3.1 Install floppy to my C: folder. It works! :banana:

So I'm aaaaall good now

But just out of curiosity: The link you gave me have some interesting thoughts on how to make 3.1 act more like 3.9. Have you tried these installs? Recommendable?

:pint: from Copenhagen
Anders

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

But just out of curiosity: The link you gave me have some interesting thoughts on how to make 3.1 act more like 3.9. Have you tried these installs? Recommendable?

W00t.  

Personally - I've installed nearly all those utilities at one time or another, plus many more off Aminet.  Anything to squeeze an extra ounce of performance out of this 23-year-old hardware, ya know?  But then again I enjoy spending time tinkering with stuff (and cursing a lot, mostly cursing).  Might not be worth it if all ya want to do is WHDLoad games.

If you do though, I'd start with FFS, SetPatch, Installer, and the libraries.  Here's one that's definitely recommended:

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4

If you google "peter K icon library" you'll find all kinds of threads describing it, even a few youtube videos.  On my A500 I'd been running an 8-color Workbench, after installing the Peter K library it got so much faster I had to bump it up to 16-color mode just to slow it back down, LOL.  

[Dandy]

If you buy AF it is illegal for you to use the ADF images on a real Amiga due to Cloanto's licencing deal with Amiga Inc

Wutt?
If Cloanto has a deal with Amiga Inc - how does that affect me as customer of Cloanto?

Somehow sounds like nonsense - I legally buy Amiga software from a licensed dealer and then am not allowed to run it on a real Amiga - just on x86 hw under Amiga emulation?
Bear with me - but it still sounds like nonsense...

Furthermore I cannot remember having seen a warning anywhere on my AF package that it is illegal to run ADFs on real Amigas.

How would the parties want to control if one makes legeal or illegel use of AF-ADFs?

If THAT would really have been intended, it would have been easier to implement code in the ADfs that prevents them from running on real Amiga HW...

Anyway, who cares for AInc, that bunch of frauders - I for sure don't...

...  
Either way you are breaking the law.

I'm not sure about that...

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

If Cloanto has a deal with Amiga Inc - how does that affect me as customer of Cloanto?

I believe the copy of Workbench distributed with Amiga Forever has been "tampered with" to make it more difficult to extract the files necessary to run it on a real Amiga.  But if you google there's hacks around that, or just download your Workbench software from bittorrent or somesuch, or copy a friend's disk, like everyone else does.  

[carls]

- Why is there a tool called "Install" and not "Installer"?

"Install" is an AmigaDOS command that writes ("installs") a boot block to a formatted device, so that for example a floppy disk is made bootable. I've always thought it's got a pretty strange name, considering that most other AmigaDOS command names are pretty logical.

[andersbm]

"Install" is an AmigaDOS command that writes ("installs") a boot block to a formatted device, so that for example a floppy disk is made bootable. I've always thought it's got a pretty strange name, considering that most other AmigaDOS command names are pretty logical.

Aahhh, I see. Was just about to write that it makes sense - but no, you are absolutely right: Considering what "Install" does, it's a pretty weird name :-D

[Djole]

If you just want to run games you can make a small script wich will check your mouse buttons on startup. I made it to work like this, if i hold down the left mouse button on boot, Amiga starts Xbench which shows me all my whdload games and I can start them without booting into workbench. If I dont touch the mouse it boots into workbench. Of course you can use any other whdload launching tool in stead of Xbench.