Philosophical Question - Amiguing

[paul1981]

Neither do I.

I'm pretty sure psxphill was trying to express his belief that all religions are an invention of man. Just thought I'd point that out incase you missed it.

[ChaosLord]

No it doesn't say that literally as it wasn't written in English. Someone may have translated the original text as "6 time periods". We weren't around at the time, so god must have told us. You'd have thought if he was going to tell us how long it took, he might actually tell us in a way that we could actually know what it meant. Otherwise, why bother?

God didn't write the bible.
People wrote the bible.
My bible is written in English as are most.

[Iggy]

God didn't write the bible.
People wrote the bible.
My bible is written in English as are most.

True, except maybe the last line.
It has to be the most translated book of all time.

[paul1981]

I believe that the very thing that sets us apart from all other creatures on this planet obligates us to become caretakers of this world.

It's obvious to me that it's this world that looks after us. We're quite powerless, and can't control or contend with the extraordinary power of nature, at least not for a LONG time. As of yet, she provides everything we require.
If Mother Nature wants to get rid of us, she will in a heart beat. We won't have a say in it.

[Iggy]

It's obvious to me that it's this world that looks after us. We're quite powerless, and can't control or contend with the extraordinary power of nature, at least not for a LONG time. As of yet, she provides everything we require.
If Mother Nature wants to get rid of us, she will in a heart beat. We won't have a say in it.

I too, believe that will inevitably happen.
And, sorry Star Trek fans, but our bodies aren't well suited to other environments.
But, hopefully, I won't live to witness it.

Finally, I think the term caretakers is more in how we treat the planet.
Since we can't really control our eventual fate, but we can do a lot of damage.

[nicholas]

I too, believe that will inevitably happen.
And, sorry Star Trek fans, but our bodies aren't well suited to other environments.
But, hopefully, I won't live to witness it.

Finally, I think the term caretakers is more in how we treat the planet.
Since we can't really control our eventual fate, but we can do a lot of damage.

Caretaker is what is meant in the narration I mentioned earlier when I translated it as viceregent.

[nicholas]

God didn't write the bible.
People wrote the bible.
My bible is written in English as are most.

I doubt that very much, if I had to gamble on it I'd guess at Spanish.

[Iggy]

Caretaker is what is meant in the narration I mentioned earlier when I translated it as viceregent.

I rather figured so, Nik.
And if we trash it, we hasten our demise.

[Linde]

The value system exists, we live in it.

Is it objective in any sense? If so, how? I can think of many value systems, but they all differ and are - if not completely arbitrary - inherently biased.

Eating bugs isn't going to get you laid, so you're not going to have children. Keeping your DNA going is the only mark of success.

Eating bugs is going to get you laid if it is what you do to survive. Also, even if you disregard the fact that this is a completely evolutionary perspective, even from that standpoint it's total bull****. You have no idea of what you're talking about if you think that having children is the only way to further genes and keep "your" DNA going. The advancement of genes have little to do with the individual animals, and most of all nothing to do with "success" in a general sense. Success in procreation is success in procreation, nothing else.

[Thorham]

I'm pretty sure psxphill was trying to express his belief that all religions are an invention of man.

And it's blatantly obvious he's correct. The fact that people still believe in those books is utterly astounding. A bunch of people a few thousand years ago wrote some books saying that they were inspired by some god. Oh really?

[commodorejohn]

And it's blatantly obvious he's correct.

That's quite an assertion, to be saying that every single religion is not just altogether wrong, but obviously altogether wrong. It's certainly not easy (or probably even possible) to prove them right, so skepticism is understandable, but that's a far cry from any of them being as self-evidently groundless as you're saying...

[Iggy]

That's quite an assertion, to be saying that every single religion is not just altogether wrong, but obviously altogether wrong. It's certainly not easy (or probably even possible) to prove them right, so skepticism is understandable, but that's a far cry from any of them being as self-evidently groundless as you're saying...

Yes, that is a good point.
And I think most people don't really get religions.
Most have lesson embedded in them on how to be a better person (humility, giving, consideration, etc).

Good reference, believe it or not, Black Sabbath - After Forever

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/black+sabbath/after+forever_20019384.html

Perhaps you'll think before you say that God is dead and gone
Open your eyes, just realize that he's the one
The only one who can save you now from all this sin and hate
Or will you still jeer at all you hear?
Yes! I think it's too late.

Yeah, the self proclaimed 'Prince of Darkness' is a Christian.
Went to a boys school in Birmingham.
Practiced at Saint Joseph's RC originally (as did Judas Priest).

And Ronnie James Dio was Catholic.

[nicholas]

And it's blatantly obvious he's correct. The fact that people still believe in those books is utterly astounding. A bunch of people a few thousand years ago wrote some books saying that they were inspired by some god. Oh really?

'Blatantly obvious' to you perhaps.

You'll find out for sure one day.....

[Iggy]

'Blatantly obvious' to you perhaps.

You'll find out for sure one day.....

Actually, if he's right, he won't find out.
He'll just die.

But I think the answer is all around us screaming for attention and people like him are just deaf to the sound.

[nicholas]

Actually, if he's right, he won't find out.
He'll just die.

But I think the answer is all around us screaming for attention and people like him are just deaf to the sound.

What I find most comical is that many atheists seem intent on converting believers to their way but I personally couldn't give a damn about trying to convert someone to my way.  I don't see the point in even trying.

"Those who reject Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allah sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills." Al-Qur'an 6:39

I'll always answer questions people ask me about what I believe and I'll always correct incorrect assumptions people have but thats about the length and breadth of it for me.

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If I'm wrong then I'll just die and my life will not have been worse off for believing either.

[_ThEcRoW]

Why you put as examples the quran?, and what it has to do with the Amiga, or computing in general?. At least one thing in common is sure, the zealots that preach that his choice is teh only and one.