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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #74 from previous page: June 29, 2013, 03:35:57 AM »
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Yup. And this would be why 90% of the Linux userbase is Linux programmers...and why desktop Linux has something like a 1-3% market share.


Nobody was saying anybody should or shouldn't be using anything. You wanna bang your head against the wall of crap UI and tell yourself that it's better for you, you go right ahead. We just want to note that you may find it feels pretty good to stop doing that.


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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2013, 04:51:20 AM »
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As it is a few bits of Amiga software are still in git or svn repositories and people have to set up a full development system just to use them (like anfs).


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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #76 on: June 29, 2013, 04:53:46 AM »
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http://xkcd.com/386/

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #77 on: June 29, 2013, 06:02:49 AM »
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@commodorejohn

If you love closed source you must be an Apple fan....


@Persia,

I always thought you were a MorphOS fan.

Or have I been off the Amiga Org site to long.

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #78 on: June 29, 2013, 06:19:48 AM »
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This is, of course, in stark contrast to the people who hijacked AmigaOS and turned it into Linux, which we all know is the Only True Future of the Amiga.


Hi,

@commodorejohn,


Don't know what to say, you are actually starting to think like me, after all the original Amiga is based on Unix, which Linux is an off shoot of.

But

Lets not make to much common sense here, we might actually get something good going.

Just think all this brain power headed in a common destination.  Unthinkable.

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2013, 06:22:08 AM »
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What is anfs?


It is the common Amiga org person, oops they spelled it wrong, they accidentally typed an "F" instead of a "U"

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2013, 07:20:57 AM »
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Don't know what to say, you are actually starting to think like me, after all the original Amiga is based on Unix, which Linux is an off shoot of.
The fact that you can't detect sarcasm aside, this isn't even remotely true. AmigaDOS is well-documented to have been based on TriPOS, a minicomputer operating system; the rest was created specifically for the Amiga. There's pretty much nothing Unix-like about it at all; the Amiga eschews memory management while Unix (outside of esoteric variants) depends on it, the Amiga uses shared-memory message-passing for inter-process communication while Unix (generally) uses a "file" construct, the Amiga operates on the basic assumption of running on a single-unit workstation with local video and sound while Unix abstracts those out to a client/server model in case it's running on a mainframe, etcetera etcetera.

But, you know, keep passing that myth along. Maybe some day the power of belief will make it true!
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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #81 on: June 29, 2013, 07:27:58 AM »
I agree that some Linux apps are dodgy, but there are plenty that I like.

Having a bunch of free applications is better than having no applications. Or expecting someone to fork out $$$ to buy the same program they already have on Windows.

I don't think this is the place for a discussion on economics. You could download WinUAE which needs a nice interface before you could expect someone to pay for it.
Or you could end up paying $50 for some bloated DVD software that doesn't have region free options and other features that you would find on a free version.
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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2013, 08:15:19 AM »
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Well use those apps yourself and STFU dictating to everyone else what they should or should not be using.


Whoa there!

Where did I dictate to anybody what they should or should not use?

And if I do make recommendations, who are you or your Linux zealot buddies to tell me not to make the recommendation?

But I'm nor surprised.

I once ran PCLOS.  One day booted into a command line due to a single 200 k CD driver update that hadn't been properly tested but was put in anyway by the maintainers.  It took them 2 weeks to rectify it.  And I needed to use a Windows PC to get online to find out what to do.  "How about not using the rolling-update model for your distro Mr Maintainer?"

Mr Maintainer: "If you don't like it go somewhere else"

L'lle ol' 2% Linux has stayed that way for very very good reasons on the desktop.

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Having a bunch of free applications is better than having no applications. Or expecting someone to fork out $$$ to buy the same program they already have on Windows.

I don't think this is the place for a discussion on economics. You could download WinUAE which needs a nice interface before you could expect someone to pay for it.
Or you could end up paying $50 for some bloated DVD software that doesn't have region free options and other features that you would find on a free version.


See the "Linux apps are free and Windows aren't" argument doesn't really hold water anymore.

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2013, 08:48:43 AM »
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Wait: you've logged in. read his posts, spent time hunting up some image on the net, because you didn't care?

And I find your "short bus" reference disgusting if by it you mean the buses that disabled people sometimes get driven in.
 

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2013, 10:21:41 AM »
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Wait: you've logged in. read his posts, spent time hunting up some image on the net, because you didn't care?

And I find your "short bus" reference disgusting if by it you mean the buses that disabled people sometimes get driven in.





ok now that that's done.   I'm not sure how much "time" you think finding an image takes.  But judging by you response the 10 seconds it took me was worth it.  

Oh and btw once the term "freetard" is used in a thread you can off your...

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #85 on: June 29, 2013, 10:37:39 AM »
@terminillus.  Gee you're such a clever piece of sh! T
 

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2013, 12:24:28 PM »
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@terminillus.  Gee you're such a clever piece of sh! T


And you're a rocket scientist appartently.  Cut and Paste to hard?   Must be complex on that closed source OS you're using.   Let me spell my handle so you can try again with the insults. t e r m i n i l l s.
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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2013, 01:42:46 PM »
The love is great in these two :D
 

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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2013, 06:25:03 PM »
Definitely past time to close this thread.
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Re: Open Source Amiga OS
« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2013, 06:40:57 PM »
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See thats the Linux mantra.  

Linux users are happy to tell people how much "better" their platform is but when users tell them "You know there is stuff here that from a users point of view is actually ****.." the response is:

"well fix it yourself, you have all the tools, all the source, to make it work exactly how you want it, for free that's the really good thing about open source"

To which the user thinks:" I'm not a ****ing programmer, I just want to use the damned thing without tearing my hair out...how do I remove this **** off my hard drive."

BTW people don't RUN operating systems, they run applications.  And any free app on Linux usually has good or better app on Windows, for free as well if you want it.

If you're not a programmer, pay one to fix it for you.  Companies do it all the time.  Most of the people will work off of donations.  The fact is, open source software is usually written to scratch an itch, and if that itch is scratched for the writer and not for all the people that complain about usability, than what should the actual answer be?  "Sure, I'll completely redo my program for free even though it works fine for me...."  People have to eat and all that.

Usually these free applications on Windows are the same ones on Linux.  The big difference is you can get them from a trusted repository most of the time on Linux (or even compile from source) whereas in the Windows world, you'll be lucky if you can download a free program without Yahoo toolbar or some extra crap that you don't want.

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