A New Classic Amiga via Kickstarter

[Amiga_Nut]

It has to be an Amiga OCS 1mb chipram machine built into a joystick like the C64DTV thing and sold for $30 or less. Also to include 30 iconic Amiga games in the flash rom. Just like the 64DTV you can add register compatible enhancements to the chipset too like a proper byte per pixel 256 colour mode (and therefore a 3 byte per pixel 24bit mode etc) and triple Paula emulation for 12 sound channels (or 6 14bit sound channels).

Anything else would be doomed to obscurity IMO

Yes an Amithlon machine running properly on an 8 core version of the Intel i7 and the hottest GPU currently in development would make an amazing machine but would anyone buy it to cover the development cost of rewriting 0S 3.x to run properly on it and even 1 game of Playstation 4/Xbox One quality (without a PS4 quality game the system is useless, games prove in seconds who has the most powerful hardware today and ultimately why Doom not being as good on mhz per mhz with cheap PCs is why AGA died a quick death....and took C= with it IMO).

(I have no interest in PPC, neither Morph or OS4 have a future running on such a CPU once all the bespoke/old Mac host hardware disappears)

[ElPolloDiabl]

Sorry whats the point of this?

I'm just asking if anyone wanted to resurrect old projects. Although it is not a serious poll, so we don't go off on a tangent.

[A6000]

People are simply voting for what is most likely to achieve results, several projects are currently working with fpga whereas no-one is trying to design a AAA chipset, and if they were they would also need to design a 68k compatible processor.
Best to do it all in fpga since you can correct your mistakes much easier and cheaper then with full custom silicon.

[psxphill]

whereas no-one is trying to design a AAA chipset,

AAA was a horrible design, you wouldn't do it anything like that now.
 
FPGA is the way to go. I'd like to see elements of AGA+ and Hombre in one of them.

[theweeone]

Good idea IMHO, and this is called MorphOS (or OS4)...



In practice, this would result in some hardware based UAE solution. The question "what's the point" comes to mind.

No, I'll stick to what I said earlier: Make it either "Retro", or "NG". Don't get stuck in the middle!

Why have another Retro Amiga? IMHO emulators such as UAE do the job well enough. OK it may not be perfect but for me it does the job well enough. The way should be NG probably requiring a rewrite of AmigaOS for either Intel or ARM processors,most likely the latter.

[OlafS3]

Why have another Retro Amiga? IMHO emulators such as UAE do the job well enough. OK it may not be perfect but for me it does the job well enough. The way should be NG probably requiring a rewrite of AmigaOS for either Intel or ARM processors,most likely the latter.

That already exists. It is called "AROS"

[theweeone]

That already exists. It is called "AROS"

Already had a look at AROS through AmigaForever. I will have another look.

[OlafS3]

In Amigaforever is only a nightly build. I have created a 68k distribution called "AROS Vision"

http://www.aros-platform.de/html/distribution_download.html

Then there is Icaros Desktop for X86:
http://vmwaros.blogspot.de/

Description (expecially regarding 68k distribution) is here:
http://www.aros-platform.de/html/icaros.html

On the Icaros site is a good manual (PDF)

if your hardware is not supported you can install and test it in a virtual environment like VMWare (installed native on supported hardware is of course better and faster)

Raspberry native port is in preparation (but at the start there will be not much software what will certainly change)

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

It has to be an Amiga OCS 1mb chipram machine built into a joystick like the C64DTV thing and sold for $30 or less. Also to include 30 iconic Amiga games in the flash rom. Just like the 64DTV

This was tried, didn't happen (unfinished, really, like a zillion other post-Commodore Amiga-like projects), and the market has moved on.  See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaDzF99a80

[slaapliedje]

I'm quite happy with the FPGA path.

On the off chance anyone wanted to resurrect the boxer, that would probably be doable without reaching $100 million+ in development.
It would be an upgraded big box Amiga which you could add 24-bit gfx.
Have it also in Mini-itx for a wedge system.

I never got to play with an Amithlon machine, but I assume it would be like WinUAE only better.

I should do this poll in another year. This was more of a quiz than a serious poll.

P.S. I should have added the GBA 1000 option, where you redo the ageing hardware chip for chip.

I like the option of new boards / components the best.  Fix some of the inadequacies of the hardware, like faster hard drive controllers (maybe even implement SATA on the board), have built in EEPROMS so we could have upgrades like modern BIOS/UEFI systems, where we can upgrade the libraries in rom instead of having to dink around with setpatch and loadmodules.

To me the Amiga is hardware and operating system.  If it were just the operating system, I would use AROS.  But if I can replace AROS on an M68k (which looks like it's either getting there, or is already there?) then I probably would!  I've always loved the 68k processors.  And AmigaOS really takes advantage of it, but I think the closed source nature of AmigaOS is part of why, after Commodore died off, that it didn't remain a very viable option for most people, and quickly turned into a hobby system.

With AROS being ported to 68k, we could replace the closed source system with an open sourced one and finally integrate a lot of the patches that people have been working on, like PeterK's icon.library.

So I would vote for something like Natami (which I think had the best goals in mind) and get AROS to support it 100%.

slaapliedje

[Amiga_Nut]

This was tried, didn't happen (unfinished, really, like a zillion other post-Commodore Amiga-like projects), and the market has moved on.  See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaDzF99a80

The C64DTV is one of the biggest selling most successful reboot though, if it is not possible technically then there is something wrong because they can squeeze megadrives into something smaller than the size of a Nintendo game and watch.

It's not my ideal machine don't get me wrong but it would sell close to a million if it was possible

[smartroad]

The way should be NG probably requiring a rewrite of AmigaOS for either Intel or ARM processors,most likely the latter.

I would love to see an NG Amiga on ARM - I have a pcDuino which has a Cortex A8 ARM at 1GHz, 1GB RAM and 2GB Flash built in. Specs that should be able to run an Amiga OS at speed. Plus it only costs about £50. I am watching for the native AROS for Raspberry PI as well. Not to mention they are low powered enough to easily installed in a wedge case for those who like that (me included!) or even battery powered.... A pipe dream I know, still a nice one
 
I am with the guys who feel that 'New' Classics should be left to the emulators. My old WinUAE installation used to fly compared to my trusty of A1200, obviously.

[Tripitaka]

FPGA has a great advantage with non-amigans if it be flashed as an atari, Sinclair, BBC, MSX etc.. even N64 is getting FPGA treatment these days. The way I see it, the more machines it can be flashed as, the bigger the market. Why build a retro machine any other way?

[royalcrown]

FPGA has a great advantage with non-amigans if it be flashed as an atari, Sinclair, BBC, MSX etc.. even N64 is getting FPGA treatment these days. The way I see it, the more machines it can be flashed as, the bigger the market. Why build a retro machine any other way?

That is true, especially if it was easy to use the actual controllers. Even an FPGA recreation beats pure software emu for ease of use once set up, and it can fit in the original hardware (for those of us that prefer original plastic).

Maybe ALL the groups should get together and do the "MAME" of all FPGA emulators...hmmmm.

[Tripitaka]

I'm with you on that one buddy.

[royalcrown]

If there was some sort of MUltiple Logic Emulator (M.U.L.E *wink wink*) that emulated all the old school stuff 2600 - 7800, Nintendo, Sega) that:
1.Lets me load images and allowed use of actual controllers via usb adapter

2 hooks up to the tv,

3.and stays configured via flash or SD card config, so as to just turn it on and play

I'll buy on for myself and 2 more for my kids !