New Apple Announcements?

[royalcrown]

And Mac Pro is an anagram of Mo Crap.

Mo' crap from apple.

I happen to like apple...but I still have to +1 you on that

[royalcrown]

Since I just sold my Imac, I can tell you recovery media was supplied until LION with the Imacs and the Macbook series. Starting with LION, one had the option of USB key, bu5t you could buy lion from the store (best buy for 29.99). After Lion (current is Mountain Lion)
only options are usb key from Apple store, roll your own USB key (easy), or download from App Store).

I still run OSX (mountain Lion) on my pc (this one I post with
).

Not meaning to sound flamey...just filling you in on the current state of restore media as you prob not an apple fan from the sound of it.

[Tripitaka]

I happen to like apple...but I still have to +1 you on that

Thanks.

To be honest I'm not an apple hater, just not a fan either. I guess I'm just down on big corporate greedy self serving capitalist scum in general.

It's nice to know some fellow Amigans have a sense of humour though, it's an important part of being human.

[royalcrown]

Thanks.

To be honest I'm not an apple hater, just not a fan either. I guess I'm just down on big corporate greedy self serving capitalist scum in general.

It's nice to know some fellow Amigans have a sense of humour though, it's an important part of being human.

But we needed those scum to fund C= development (Irving Gould) and later ruin it (Amiga)

First to get it invented - C64

Later, so my $200 dollar 64 did not cost 205.00 or 210.00 even by paying workers a good wage ! That extra 10 would've ruined it...greedy bastards !

( Actually, I think if Jack would've been more greedy on the retail end by 5 bucks, he could've made the money he needed to expand and tell Gould to F OFF ! They might've had enough money to pay suppliers, roll out a good graphics chip, and get the parts they needed to sell enough Amigas to still be around, or at least be around longer.)

Brian Bagnell's book is a great read, worth the 9 bucks (as much as I hate kindle - I converted it to Ebook - Take THAT Amazon)

On the edge: the spectacular rise and fall of Commodore

[nyteschayde]

Sorry, Apple: "Pros" need the ability to burn discs, add hard drives, expand RAM, and install new PCIe cards - internally. This little monolith of a Mac Pro ain't going to cut it. It's essentially a tall Mac mini with better chips and more ports - no thanks.

Internal PCIe cards are not needed when you have 20gbps data flow over thunderbolt. If what you need isn't already inside you just add an enclosure and the card you want and voila, you're good to go. Even better, you can take that enclosure and use it on your laptop too if you need it on the go.

[nyteschayde]

Who gives a shıt?

@commodorejohn
While I respect your opinions, why troll Other Operating Systems just so you can exclaim about your overly strong distaste for Apple? This thread would be a nicer environment if people just had constructive criticism and/or debated the question of the thread. If you have nothing good to say about the topic and can't even say something bad in a constructive manner, please don't say anything about it at all.

Thanks

[royalcrown]

Internal PCIe cards are not needed when you have 20gbps data flow over thunderbolt. If what you need isn't already inside you just add an enclosure and the card you want and voila, you're good to go. Even better, you can take that enclosure and use it on your laptop too if you need it on the go.

True, but that sh## costs too much still, why I bought A non TB board vs TB..by the time it's reasonable...thunderbolt 3 will be out !

[Tripitaka]

Brian Bagnell's book is a great read, worth the 9 bucks (as much as I hate kindle - I converted it to Ebook - Take THAT Amazon)

On the edge: the spectacular rise and fall of Commodore

I should read it, I know I should but I just can't help reading Lovecraftian horror instead.

It's a strange thing though, I notice a lot of IT companies start off with some clever people who are idealistic and not overly concerned with making cash. They just end up as evil corporations when they start selling shares and are driven by keeping the short term interests of those shareholders happy. Let's face it, some of them even get arrogant enough to then sack the guys who started it. It's sad when such a company looses it's Jobs...
....hold on this is sounding familiar, but then this is an Apple thread.

[kickstart]

Then stip reading "Other Operating Systems"

It's always interesting to see the same people complaining that "Other Operating Systems" forum has stuff about Other Operating Systems on it.....

Yes, you are right, threads about mac ppc hardware for morphos is ok... but this "news" a.org becomes mac.org, but dont worry is just my opinion.

[Dr.Bongo]

*sigh* yet another shrill and pointless, non-Amiga/Commodore related thread.
In the words of Ultravox 'This means NOTHING to me'

[royalcrown]

This book actually covers some Apple goings on and covers the demotion of WOZ about 1/2 way through. Since apple was right across the street from C=, and C='S lead designer worked at apple for awile, we get some good gossip and such about when they started to turn evil (apple).

It's a good horror story (the book) in it's own right, even got some corp. espionage

I may try some of what you are reading after this book.

I should read it, I know I should but I just can't help reading Lovecraftian horror instead.

It's a strange thing though, I notice a lot of IT companies start off with some clever people who are idealistic and not overly concerned with making cash. They just end up as evil corporations when they start selling shares and are driven by keeping the short term interests of those shareholders happy. Let's face it, some of them even get arrogant enough to then sack the guys who started it. It's sad when such a company looses it's Jobs...
....hold on this is sounding familiar, but then this is an Apple thread.

[Matt_H]

I'll walk back my criticism a little bit, since it appears now that the Mac Pro RAM will be user-upgradable, at least.

But my main points stand. For a "professional" machine at the price that this thing will go for, one should not have to:

1. Shell out additional cash for a CD drive, expensive external hard drives, Thunderbolt dock, and/or PCIe chassis when the need arises. The only way this severe curtailing of expandability can be justified is if the machine itself is significantly cheaper than the current model, which is highly unlikely.

2. Deal with the clutter of all that external crap on one's desk. Tower cases were invented to clean up the mess of peripherals we had all over the place in the 80s and early 90s. They're a good concept, worthy of the market they're intended for, and shouldn't be thrown away just because some Apple engineers think circles are cool.

Actually, what I really worry about is the copycat designs this will spawn. PC manufacturers came out with some truly horrendous case designs after the first iMac appeared.

[Tripitaka]

@ Matt_H
The HP case you linked to is nasty...
...but this one is even worse:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112217

What a stinker.

[Matt_H]

@ Matt_H
The HP case you linked to is nasty...
...but this one is even worse:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112217

What a stinker.

Ick. It's like the TARDIS and that sailboat building in Dubai had a baby. Glad it's out of stock and discontinued!

[royalcrown]

I'm worried that the tubular apple will lead to apples globalization, then to apples  half globalization...and eventually......

THIS:



:sick:

[Dr.Bongo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SmrAuvVvKyA