WTB: Seeking purchasing advice A3000 vs A2500 Video Toaster

[WeiXing3D]

Which model should I buy between::juggler:

Amiga 3000 - boots fine
Kickstart and workbench disks back to version 1.0 and up to 3.1
keyboard and mouse Plus extension cables
External floppy disk drive
Picasso II 24-bit graphics board
Amiga genlock
AmiGen
Wide to standard VGA adapter
Amiga 520 video to composite adapter
2 MIDI interfaces
Parnet cable
Two wireless joysticks
Two wired joysticks

OR

Video Toaster 2500 Amiga Computer - with additional Accelerator Card. Includes Monitor, Keyboard and Cables. Video Graphics and Video productions. It has a build-in time base correctors and it is used to stabilize video in a multi-camara or decks switching session. It has 120+ fades, wipes, a-b roll, Titles and many other special effects.

I'm looking for expandability (at slow pace, as I'm still on training wheels) and fun factor.

Your recommendations are welcome and thank you for the input.

[amiman99]

That is a hard one to decide, both are very similar.
A2500 is easier to expand then A3000.
A3000 has Zorro III slots vs. Zorro II on A2500
A3000 has 2MB chip RAM vs 1MB on A2500 (can be expanded to 2MB for more $$$)
A3000 has VGA out standard.
A3000 can be expanded to 16MB RAM on board vs. add-on cards on A2500.

Video Toaster is nice, but only to play with and kinda useless in HD era, and if you want it anyway, you could get it later.
Actually VT runs better with 2MB chip RAM then 1MB.

Personally I would go with A3000, it a basically an improved A2500, but with less exp slots.

Before purchasing I would check if there is a battery leak on board on both computers.

[mongo]

The 3000 is much better.

[magnetic]

Def the 3000 hands down

[Bobo68]

I would take 2500.
3000 is smaller and suffers of overheating - it can be glitches on Picasso II
also it is need buster 11 to utilize Zorro III

for 2500 you can take 2060 accelerator with 128 M memeory and A2320 scandoubler

[psxphill]

for 2500 you can take 2060 accelerator with 128 M memeory and A2320 scandoubler

Anything for the 2000 seems to be more expensive though.
 
I know it has issues, but I would always go for a 4000.

[Bobo68]

Anything for the 2000 seems to be more expensive though.
 
I know it has issues, but I would always go for a 4000.

Yes I sold both 3000's and bought 4000

[Ami_GFX]

The A3000. It's the complete kit with everything. The A2500 is set up for analog video production and unless you want to play around with the toaster, you won't need most of what it has. An A3000 with a Picasso II is a much better choice to get started with Amigas.

[Vlabguy1]

Which model should I buy between::juggler:

Amiga 3000 - boots fine
Kickstart and workbench disks back to version 1.0 and up to 3.1
keyboard and mouse Plus extension cables
External floppy disk drive
Picasso II 24-bit graphics board
Amiga genlock
AmiGen
Wide to standard VGA adapter
Amiga 520 video to composite adapter
2 MIDI interfaces
Parnet cable
Two wireless joysticks
Two wired joysticks

OR

Video Toaster 2500 Amiga Computer - with additional Accelerator Card. Includes Monitor, Keyboard and Cables. Video Graphics and Video productions. It has a build-in time base correctors and it is used to stabilize video in a multi-camara or decks switching session. It has 120+ fades, wipes, a-b roll, Titles and many other special effects.

I'm looking for expandability (at slow pace, as I'm still on training wheels) and fun factor.

Your recommendations are welcome and thank you for the input.

A2500 for sure.. I have three non-working(who knows why) A3000's.  They seem
troublesome and from an assembly standpoint what a disaster.  A2500 rock solid hardware, lots of room and easy to work on etc.

my2cents..

Rich

[desantii]

I would do the 3000, everything you need is already there (030, scandoubler, chip ram, etc) and its, at least for me personally, the best looking Amiga

[Jeff]

I would do the 3000, everything you need is already there (030, scandoubler, chip ram, etc) and its, at least for me personally, the best looking Amiga

Both systems sound nice. I own multiple systems, perhaps it would be possible to grab them both?

Enjoy whatever you choose and please post lots of pics!

[royalcrown]

IMO...don't mutilate a 3000 just to fit a toaster in there...you need to cut the chassis to fit. I do have a chassis I'll swap you if you do get the 3000 however. The guy already cut it for a video toaster.

[amiman99]

IMO...don't mutilate a 3000 just to fit a toaster in there...you need to cut the chassis to fit. I do have a chassis I'll swap you if you do get the 3000 however. The guy already cut it for a video toaster.

I think you can install VT4000 in A3000 w/o cutting. The connector board is adjustable.

[royalcrown]

I think you can install VT4000 in A3000 w/o cutting. The connector board is adjustable.

I think so, but not the older ones...got those right here and some poor cases with the slot cut out to fit em'

The toaster 4000 is pretty nice

[Marmes]

I would go for A3000 and change gal chips for cool running and check if ir has buster11 and 16mb of ram already , otherwise go for an A4000 if the price is ok