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VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« on: June 02, 2013, 04:12:08 PM »
Hello!

I would like to hook up my Amiga 2000 with my 21 inch flat screen monitor only. My monitor has only got VGA and DVI connectors. But I'm not sure if there are any (inexpensive) adaptors available out there. Can someone point me in the right direction, please?
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 04:35:01 PM »
If your monitor is one of the few that can handle the Amiga's native video scan rates (15KHz horizontal and 50Hz vertical), then you just need an RGB to VGA adapter. Unfortunately, I had trouble with the straight through pin adapters that are commonly available. There are a number of older adapters (the "Commodore silverbox") that have some additional circuitry in them to deal with genlocks that will definitely work.

If your monitor is a standard VGA monitor (31KHz and 56Hz), you need an Indivision ECS, mounted internally.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 06:47:09 PM »
Matt has a couple of good points, so let me clarify. The Dell ST series (I have an ST2310L) are nice flat screens that will sync to 15khz once you get the correct signals into them. The Indivision ECS is a $100 scan doubler/flicker fixer that puts out a 31khz screen with a few changeable options.   The cheap GBS-8220 stuff on eBay will give a crappy 31khz screen, but using a SCART cable to a SCART-to-HDMI (you would need an HDMI to DVI adapter) will give a quite nice large screen output for about $75. The Microway FlickerFixer and the A2320 card fit the A2000's video slot and will also give a standard VGA output. Don't buy the eBay "15khz to RGB YUV video" piece of junk. It will give you a composite quality picture.

The AmigaKit 23-pin Amiga to 15-pin VGA only works for AGA Amigas, so don't be tempted.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 08:26:53 PM »
Thanks Matt H and danbeaver for swift replies. I will need to check the specs of my monitor (it's an Acer) before going any further. I will get back tomorrow in case of any concerns.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2013, 08:30:53 PM »
I always forget about the SCART option. Too bad it's Europe only - would make things a lot easier here in the States. If I ever visit Europe, I'm bringing a SCART flatscreen back with me!

A word about the Microway, though - it only handles NTSC *or* PAL, depending on the particular unit. It can't do both.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 10:24:14 PM »
The best option for the Amiga 2000 is the Indivision ECS
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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 06:01:41 AM »
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The best option for the Amiga 2000 is the Indivision ECS


Well I'm glad we heard from someone who has no financial incentive for giving us such sage advice.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 06:07:41 AM »
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I always forget about the SCART option. Too bad it's Europe only - would make things a lot easier here in the States. If I ever visit Europe, I'm bringing a SCART flatscreen back with me!

A word about the Microway, though - it only handles NTSC *or* PAL, depending on the particular unit. It can't do both.


Dude, HDMI is digital so you just need an RGB to "upscaling converter" to get there. I just found it easier to use a Amiga-2-SCART cable and then the $45 device off eBay to get 1080p output. My systems are NTSC and it works pretty well even in interlace.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 06:27:45 AM »
You could get a graphics card with VGA connector on it. Many of them convert the signal to the proper 31 khz. Look at "The Big Book OF Amiga Hardware" sites...
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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 07:07:34 AM »
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You could get a graphics card with VGA connector on it. Many of them convert the signal to the proper 31 khz. Look at "The Big Book OF Amiga Hardware" sites...



Yes but requires a hard drive, about $200, and do not do well with a stock 68000.  :)
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 01:39:14 PM »
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Well I'm glad we heard from someone who has no financial incentive for giving us such sage advice.



Dan,

Not sure if that is called for.  Given the requirements that the OP gave, the advice I gave is the best option, unless you know of another solution.
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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 02:50:36 PM »
If your Amiga 2000 has the Full ECS (Denise and Paula) and at least Amiga DOS 2.04 or above, you can output to any monitor that accepts VGA signals using the cheap Amiga adapter and the Productivity Mode with Multiscan monitor in Devs.

That was what I used until I got my Commodore Flicker Fixer card.

Disadvantage is this only works with Workbench friendly programs.

Since the A2000 doesn't boot up by default in Productivity mode, I used the composite output on the Amiga to set it up.  Then switched to the RGB port.

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Hello!

I would like to hook up my Amiga 2000 with my 21 inch flat screen monitor only. My monitor has only got VGA and DVI connectors. But I'm not sure if there are any (inexpensive) adaptors available out there. Can someone point me in the right direction, please?
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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 08:07:08 PM »
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Dan,

Not sure if that is called for.  Given the requirements that the OP gave, the advice I gave is the best option, unless you know of another solution.

Solutions, options, and opinions given without commercial bias.
 

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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 08:51:48 PM »
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Re: VGA adaptor for Amiga 2000
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 08:54:31 PM »
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If I ever visit Europe, I'm bringing a SCART flatscreen back with me!


scart give good results on crt, with lcd, led... upscale is terrible.
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