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UPS is getting me upset.
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:39:45 AM »
Check out this:
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Not the first computer either, how 'bout you guys ?

This was my first Amiga too, which compounds the BUMMER !
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 02:53:28 AM »
Sometimes it's the shippers fault, like not providing enough clearance between the box and the PC.
Looks like a case damage, major unscrewing job, just to get to the case. I hope everything else is fine.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 03:09:16 AM »
Quote from: amiman99;735134
Sometimes it's the shippers fault, like not providing enough clearance between the box and the PC.
Looks like a case damage, major unscrewing job, just to get to the case. I hope everything else is fine.

No..it seems the motherboard is also damaged. See how the motherboard is bend with the case. That is not a good sign.
 

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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 03:13:08 AM »
Box seemed plenty big and shipper packed well outside of crating it. Bubble packs and bubble wrap all around 6 sides.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 03:31:31 AM »
I think that's more a result of (poor) long-term storage of A2000s. I have one with very similar - although not as severe - bowing that was never shipped. I suspect that if all 4 feet aren't properly supported, the uneven distribution of weight will cause the case to warp over a period of years.
 

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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 03:45:42 AM »
You might be lucky.  Check to make sure no part of the metal base is actually in contact with the bottom of the motherboard and fire it up.  If it works then an hour with a screwdriver and a mallet should sort it out.

Fingers crossed...

Edit:  Considering the amount of force that would need to be applied to the side of the case to bend that metal strip, if it was done in transit while the case was wrapped in bubble-wrap then I'd expect to see some sign of an impact on the outside of the shipping box.  The A2000 was built like a brick toilet and designed to survive a direct nuclear strike.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 03:49:01 AM »
That really sux. I've seen this so many times with these shipping outfits its amazing. I had a FedEx guy literally throw a boxed amiga 4000 toaster down a flight of stairs (i was standing right there couldnt believe it, for them thats normal)
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 04:27:51 AM »
I told shipper that I wasn't going to complain if he sent it that was becase I bought as is. He says it was straight when he sent it, so going to file with UPS. Given that this isn't my first mashed pc, I reason that items with a high mass and large surface area like pc cases get damaged more often than most items. There were times I should have reamed em and gave them a break, so hopefully they'll be fair with me here.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2013, 04:32:12 AM »
I saw a video from them no less on how they ship. The air part killed me to watch. They had a special case that fits the fuselage EXACTLY (like those vacuum bank things). So it's curved on top right...anyhow they fill ALL that space. Guess what happens with the rectangle box when only the round side is left...They mash it in to fit anyhow if possible. It was on the science channel or something like that on tv.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2013, 04:37:13 AM »
Quote from: Matt_H;735141
I think that's more a result of (poor) long-term storage of A2000s. I have one with very similar - although not as severe - bowing that was never shipped. I suspect that if all 4 feet aren't properly supported, the uneven distribution of weight will cause the case to warp over a period of years.


It's mostly straight on the opposite side and the perpendicular sides. Could be but going with most likely based on what info is available.

To do that it'd have to be stored on some sort of fulcrum I'd think...lol
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 04:37:34 AM »
UPS is one of the more expensive and bureucratic transporters too. Quit their business?

Find a cheaper one and use the monetary difference in packaging material..
(perhaps one should use a fiberglass box to preserve the contents?)
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 04:57:37 AM »
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No..it seems the motherboard is also damaged. See how the motherboard is bend with the case. That is not a good sign.
The PCB are designed to bend to some degree and still be good, hopefully there is no PCB break there.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 05:12:27 AM »
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The PCB are designed to bend to some degree and still be good, hopefully there is no PCB break there.


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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 05:12:48 AM »
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It's mostly straight on the opposite side and the perpendicular sides. Could be but going with most likely based on what info is available.

To do that it'd have to be stored on some sort of fulcrum I'd think...lol

Yeah, I bought mine from a guy who had it sitting on a shelf for who knows how long, with the front half hanging over the edge. The bowing is probably more pronounced on the right-hand side of the machine because that's where all the heavy stuff is - drive chassis and PSU.

If there's damage to the top case in that area as well, that would suggest UPS damage. Otherwise, I think it's just physics and time that are to blame ;)

EDIT: One thing you can do to test is pop out the motherboard. If it returns to a flat shape, then you're probably looking at acute UPS damage. If it stays bowed, it's probably long-term warping.
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Re: UPS is getting me upset.
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2013, 05:17:13 AM »
Take it apart and see if it works, just be careful not to drop the back of the PS onto the motherboard which can damage the Video Hybrid chip.
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
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A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
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CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
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