When emulators outperform the real deal.

[AmiDude]

Seriously?  I 've heard this complaint for years, but I've NEVER experienced it (and I have both real Amigas and UAE).  I think it's just a matter of people not configuring (or at least tweaking) their UAE setup properly.  I get no controller or sound latency.  In fact, I think if I hid the PC somewhere and set up a real Amiga in front of the monitor, I could fool a real Amigan into thinking I was running from the actual hardware (the new WinUAE can even do scan-lines and CRT blur like a real 1084).

The same counts for you:
Can you explain which WinUae (sound) configuration you have, please?

[AmiDude]

Depends on your hardware. I have low latency audio hardware, which has has lag down at between 5ms and 12ms for OctaMED in WinUAE. If you claim to be able to hear that... You are deluding yourself.

And the same counts for you:

Can you explain which WinUae (sound) configuration you have, please?
Oh and I'm really not deluting myself...

[paul1981]

I bet you prefer vinyl over CD's or download to?

Yes, music prefers vinyl as well.

Like you say, it's about personal choice and freedom...for which we should all be grateful.

[paul1981]

We are talking 6ms or less on a modern LCD screen, an eye would never be able to spot that, I'd like to se someone with an reaction time of less than 6ms, most will not be able to respond quicker then 600ms.
 
I'm a gamer, one of the best in Battlefield2/3 and I had my share on Counter-Strike and I'd challenge anyone saying you can notice lag on my WinUAE rig.

600ms? That's 0.6 seconds...I think all of us here (being Amiga fans) have quicker responses than that. :laugh1:

[Thorham]

600ms? That's 0.6 seconds...I think all of us here (being Amiga fans) have quicker responses than that. :laugh1:

Indeed. Most people are twice as fast as that, with a maximum of about 0.2 seconds.

[Honkybear]

I like both the real deal and Emulation both have issues when it comes to compatibility as some programs weren't written for 2.0 or 1.3 or 3.1 or whatever the case maybe. It's all good.
But I especially like Amidude's b0ing Avatar :-) Puts a smile on my dial

[Dr.Bongo]

Emulation, especially winuae is excellent these days. BUT, in my opinion it's just doesn't give the same feeling as doing it on old hardware.
I showed a friend who used to have miggy's, Jesus Christ Motocross the other week on my A4k. He was amazed! Had I done that via emulation on a PC, it wouldn't have had the same impact.
I value emulation but it will never replace any of my hardware.

[AmigaClassicRule]

emulation, especially winuae is excellent these days. But, in my opinion it's just doesn't give the same feeling as doing it on old hardware.
I showed a friend who used to have miggy's, jesus christ motocross the other week on my a4k. He was amazed! Had i done that via emulation on a pc, it wouldn't have had the same impact.
I value emulation but it will never replace any of my hardware.

thank you!!

Every time I grin when I go online in my real A1200 and chat using WookieChat or go Aweb or even use the javascript in the browser. But I do not grin when I do it in my WinUAE. Also I do not care what anyone else says, I believe that PPC AmigaOS 4.1 is a real Amiga and I have complete intention of getting that. I will have the best of two "things". I will have the Amiga 1200 classic 68k Apollo 1260 @ 80 Mhz as the best 68k Amiga out there and I will have either SAM or whatever new hardware PPC for AmigaOS 4.1 as the newest and latest PPC Amiga system.

Erm...AmiDude..your avatar is a little uh..should we see Rate A+. Uh...ok.

[paul1981]

I use WinUAE to support my real Amiga's - Prep drives, test out software etc etc. I agree, emulation just isn't the same thing... but it has its uses, and for some it's all they'll have, and one day a few decades down the line it'll be all that is left of the Amiga as nearly all units of hardware will eventually be destroyed. This is where replicators from Star Trek will come in handy.

[psxphill]

I don't notice any perceivable latency in my WinUAE system as compared to my real Amiga use - even when doing timing critical tasks such as MIDI music recording in Bars & Pipes where screen updates must occur when the music notes scroll by.

MIDI has it's own latency on real hardware, so you're probably not going to notice much difference.
 
I use both real hardware and emulators & have my name down for an fpga replay. I know the pro's and con's of each and tbh I'm not bothered with the latency of emulators on a PC. Besides, I find that using a keyboard to emulate a joystick has a lower physical latency than wrestling with a competition pro joystick.

[Ral-Clan]

The same counts for you:
Can you explain which WinUae (sound) configuration you have, please?

As I have explained it many times before on Amiga.org, I don't feel like re-typing it all again. Here is one of my old posts:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=728120&postcount=23

Read the whole thread.  I was able to solve this guy's latency problems.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

one day a few decades down the line it'll be all that is left of the Amiga as nearly all units of hardware will eventually be destroyed. This is where replicators from Star Trek will come in handy.

I dunno, personally I'm still hoping that one day a few decades down the line all these people who've hoarded up all the A4000's will kick it, and that I'll still be alive to be able to afford one, LOL.  

[AmiDude]

As I have explained it many times before on Amiga.org, I don't feel like re-typing it all again. Here is one of my old posts:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=728120&postcount=23

Read the whole thread.  I was able to solve this guy's latency problems.

Thanks ral-clan. I'll try these settings and see if it solves my problems.

[AmiDude]

But I especially like Amidude's b0ing Avatar :-) Puts a smile on my dial

I know what you mean! She has a really nice *ss!

[AmigaClassicRule]

I know what you mean! She has a really nice *ss!

I dunno we allowed XXX in amiga.org forum! What about the children?

[AmigaClassicRule]

I use WinUAE to support my real Amiga's - Prep drives, test out software etc etc. I agree, emulation just isn't the same thing... but it has its uses, and for some it's all they'll have, and one day a few decades down the line it'll be all that is left of the Amiga as nearly all units of hardware will eventually be destroyed. This is where replicators from Star Trek will come in handy.

Why would Amiga hardware be destroyed? I don't understand. Who goes smashing these hardware?