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Re: Classic Amigas - Still Useful?
« Reply #44 from previous page: May 14, 2013, 02:49:52 AM »
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Re: Classic Amigas - Still Useful?
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2013, 03:08:43 AM »
When I get my first amiga running, I plan on using it as my daily driver. My BORING comodity UBER gaming pc will get dusty and be used when I have to. We have thousands of times more power today, and it's used to run (mostly) crap.

Whether it's crappy coding (stalker, skyrim) or just crap (GTA4) this platform is going to waste !
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Re: Classic Amigas - Still Useful?
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2013, 07:19:31 AM »
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As a musician and programmer, I get to meet a lot of people who use their computers for producing original and interesting stuff, so my idea of it all might not be very representative of the whole.
Well, like I said, the capability for creation is definitely still there (even if my theoretical "muse" is missing and that makes it harder to focus.) But I think we are seeing a shift in emphasis.

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The technological shift towards consumption I think of mostly as an adaption to the market, but if you get into the cybernetics of the thing, it's also very much the consumers approaching technology in the way they were taught to approach it.
Precisely. That's the primary difference between my family in the early '90s and Family X getting their first computer today - not that we were part of some creative elite, oh-so-much-better-suited to these pursuits (well, my mom was a pretty good pianist, but other than that,) but that Family X lives in a culture where they have been taught for years that they exist primarily to be consumers of product distributed by media conglomerates.

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That was much more true for Apple than C64/Atari  800 and later ST/A500. When I was a kid (C64 era) computer gaming was  already huge, "productivity" was the line we gave our folks to justify  buying us the things. Console gaming was for the peasants. :-)
Well, yes and no. There was definitely a thriving gaming scene, and computers-as-entertainment as an idea goes all the way back to the '60s and the PDP-1. That said, you'll note that you still had to convince your folks that it was for something useful or creative. The expectation was still there, even though you were shirking it :D And I've rescued multiple C64s that came with as much productivity software as they did games, so people were using them for doing stuff in addition to gaming.
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Re: Classic Amigas - Still Useful?
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2013, 10:34:17 AM »
Sure you could do real work on them (even I had a copy of GEOS), but by and large the C64/A500 were marketed as game machines, and were often scoffed at in the computing world because of that. The software sections at all the major chains, toy stores, etc, were filled with games, and comparatively little productivity. Walk into a mall Software Etc, and you'd see an A500 running a game demo. At least up until the mid-late 80's, people who had the money and considered the computer primarily as a tool bought IBMs (which had better suited displays for that anyway), or maybe an Apple.