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A1200 as a development platform
« on: April 23, 2013, 10:45:00 AM »
Hi all,
Amiga newbie here (or rather, potential newbie as I haven't bought an A1200 yet!)
My main interest would be in OS software development (that is, creating an OS from scratch,) but before I plunge and buy the machine, I'd want to know if there is documentation specific to the A1200. I have seen there is an Amiga Hardware book, but it seems the latest version deals at most with Amiga 3000s and ECS. Did Commodore or third party ever release A1200 specific documentation and software development tools/libraries? I am used to DevPac on the Atari ST, is the Amiga version as good?

Thanks in advance,
Antonio
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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 10:55:07 AM »
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Hi all,
Amiga newbie here (or rather, potential newbie as I haven't bought an A1200 yet!)
My main interest would be in OS software development (that is, creating an OS from scratch,) but before I plunge and buy the machine, I'd want to know if there is documentation specific to the A1200. I have seen there is an Amiga Hardware book, but it seems the latest version deals at most with Amiga 3000s and ECS. Did Commodore or third party ever release A1200 specific documentation and software development? I am used to DevPac on the Atari ST, is the Amiga version as good?

Thanks in advance,
Antonio

Hi
Ni specific AGA book, but there is document and coders to help.
One is included in Asmpro.
Devpac is not as good if you use the Atari monochrome monitor but in Amiga you can multitask :)
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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 11:10:55 AM »
Thanks!
So no official documentation to speak of. That's a pity :(
Indeed I use a mono monitor on my Atari. And MiNT (so I too have multitasking) :D
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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 11:33:02 AM »
ROM Kernel Manuals,
Amiga Technologies/H and P used to sell documentation on a CD (Amiga Developer CD)
There was a Geek Gadgets CD that also contained documentation.

I'm not a coder, but I remember these things.
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 11:42:48 AM »
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ROM Kernel Manuals,
Amiga Technologies/H and P used to sell documentation on a CD (Amiga Developer CD)
There was a Geek Gadgets CD that also contained documentation.

I'm not a coder, but I remember these things.

+1

I have the "Developer CD 2.1." which contains documentation up to 3.5.

I would recommend to get it from somewhere (propably f.e. it is still available from Vesalia)

here is the link with description:
http://www.vesalia.de/d_developer2.htm
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 12:01:42 PM »
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+1

I have the "Developer CD 2.1." which contains documentation up to 3.5.

I would recommend to get it from somewhere (propably f.e. it is still available from Vesalia)

here is the link with description:
http://www.vesalia.de/d_developer2.htm
Thanks for the info.
But is that only OS information? While that's nice, I am more interested in the actual hardware information (e.g. registers, architecture etc.)
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Offline OlafS3

Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 12:06:01 PM »
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Thanks for the info.
But is that only OS information? While that's nice, I am more interested in the actual hardware information (e.g. registers, architecture etc.)


"Revised Amiga ROM Kernel Reference Manuals in AmigaGuide format"

that should include "hardware reference" but i am not sure here at the moment because I am personally more on the "software-side". Perhaps someone here knows it or I could look at it.
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2013, 12:25:54 PM »
You might want to consider the fact that every Amiga OS version up to 3.9 was not AGA-specific, but could be run from every Amiga model in existence (properly expanded in some cases)..  ;)
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 03:40:51 PM »
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"Revised Amiga ROM Kernel Reference Manuals in AmigaGuide format"

that should include "hardware reference" but i am not sure here at the moment because I am personally more on the "software-side". Perhaps someone here knows it or I could look at it.
That would be a huge help, thanks! (only if it's not too much of an hassle, of course!)
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Offline OlafS3

Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 03:47:26 PM »
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That would be a huge help, thanks! (only if it's not too much of an hassle, of course!)


No problem. i will look at it and send you a PM
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 03:51:51 PM »
I have PM you, perhaps you can look at the link and say if it is good for you
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 04:17:26 PM »
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"Revised Amiga ROM Kernel Reference Manuals in AmigaGuide format"

that should include "hardware reference" but i am not sure here at the moment because I am personally more on the "software-side". Perhaps someone here knows it or I could look at it.


http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/amiga-books.htm

https://www.google.com/search?q=Amiga+guru+book+filetype%3Atorrent
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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2013, 04:22:35 PM »
Elowar's Amiga programming doc site: http://amigadev.elowar.com/
Hardware programming part: http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Hardware_Manual_guide/node0000.html

The hardware programming part is OCS and ECS only, but you have to know that stuff anyway to program for AGA.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2013, 04:22:50 PM »
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That would be a huge help, thanks! (only if it's not too much of an hassle, of course!)


I found this:
"IIRC there was never an AGA-updated revision of HRM or similar from official sources? Or am I mistaken?

 That's correct. Reasons for that were rather silly IMHO, they didn't give out updated HRM's because they wanted "hardware hacking to die"."

It seems there is no updated official reference for AGA
 

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Re: A1200 as a development platform
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2013, 04:26:28 PM »
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That would be a huge help, thanks! (only if it's not too much of an hassle, of course!)


perhaps this:
http://aminet.net/package/docs/help/aga_guide