Pegasos II vs AmigaOne

[Invisix]

I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

The Pegasos II seems to be the better system, and cheaper! However, I have a question reguarding MorphOS. Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Thanks! :-D

[HopperJF]

Well... I only used one of the systems.
I opted for an AmigaOne in 2002, but it screwed up and ended up unrepairable.
I wasn't too impressed with it, so I'm sticking to classic amigas until a new amiga i like turns up.

Pegasos II looks impressive, and bplan seem a more professional company and better customer support, but I really want to see AmiDelf's Amiga 6000 project take off  :-)

[iamaboringperson]

Pegasos II vs AmigaOne

:nervous:  Oh dear...

I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

I prefer Pegasos II.

Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Yes... Well kind of.

If the application or game is programmed properly (fully system compliant) it should run it as though it is a native application (from the users perspective)

For example I always startup with the old 68K fat95

[Madgun68]

which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

Not really a matter of preference to me. I'd probably own both if the AmigaOne wasn't so damned expensive. Personally speaking, AOS4 doesn't justify the cost of an A1. Neither system has a browser that up to snuff as they should be, not to mention a lack of other programs as well (word processors, etc..)

Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Anything that is completely system friendly should, in theory, run. Most games probably won't, but a lot of applications do

[downix]

Invisix wrote:
I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

Peg II, but I'm biased

The Pegasos II seems to be the better system, and cheaper! However, I have a question reguarding MorphOS. Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Thanks! :-D

Most should run.  It comes down to if the developer programmed by using the OS API or banging the hardware.  So highly-optimized games and demos that push the hardware probably won't work, but those are increasingly rare as with OS 3.0 and later there was no need to bang the hardware to get the performance out of the machine.

[HotRod]

@Madgun68

AmigaWriter, Final Writer and Word Worth all does the job for me. I don't need anything more advanced. But if it isn't enough for you you can use Page Stream instead.

Browsers isn't a problem since Linux are available. On the classic Amiga I used Netscape 4.08 through Fusion for the few pages that I couldn't use with the amiga-browsers.

It's all a matter of priority as usual. If you can't stand to use two systems stay with Windows.

And now it's really off topic.

A1 will get the best support for games since Hyperion continues the development of Warp3D. AOS 4 will come with UAE for older games.

Regarding the hardware I guess that they are both good, I don't know though since i only own an A1.

Regarding the price.... well Amiga has allways been more expensive than a PC if you look at CPU-speed and memory. I could've gotten a 486 with more memory, bigger harddrive and a higher clock-rate wich people seems to be looking at just as much today as they did back then but I choosed the A4000 instead. I've been very happy with my choice.

And this really makes me wonder how some people got in contact with the Amiga in the first place. If it was bought cheaply second hand it can be done again once the first A1s is old.

[Piru]

Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

As stated before in this thread, OS friendly games and applications work:


If the game hits hardware you can use UAE:


[EDIT: Added some more shots. Yes scsibench has slight gfx bug, but that's because the app is not prepared for 88MB/sec speed ;-) Also, excuse my lame MUI config, I really have no taste.]

[magnetic]

Hi Invisix

  Well the Reason I use Pegasos is as Amiga replacement. I have an A4000T sitting right her no my Lan with 2 Pegasos boxes (Peg1 g3 - Peg2 g4) and I can tell you the "Real" Amiga hasnt been on in months! I do everythin on my Pegasos and MorphOS.

*Special thanks to Piru for the screenshots

 As you can see any apps that run under Cybergrafx will run under MorphOS. I use mostly Amiga apps atm! Of course, there are tons of MorphOS native applications that I use daily.
And blindingly fast! Blows away ANY Amiga or Amithlon system as its not Emulation!

 Considering OS4 is still in an "Alpha" state and Morphos in a much more advanced (working) state its no contest. In all the demos I've seen I only see a couple of apps running. I'd like to see a list of software that works right now on AOS4.

Also the fact that OS4 got voted in the top VAPOUR Products in Wired magazine is kind of scary!

magnetic

[Damion]

Hi Invisix,

I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do
you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

On paper, the Pegasos II specifications are superior, that's not
really debatable. However, in comparison to modern hardware from
the "mainstream", both products will fall short.

Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Like others have said, anything that is "system friendly" will
behave well. So most WB style apps run without issue (paint, internet,
media players, etc), and many, but not all, programs which are
promotable to their own (user defined) screens will work.
 
*Most* games do not work, and there is sadly only a very small
percentage of demos that will run, but that's not the fault of
MorphOS (and OS4 will be no different).

However - in addition to what already runs, MorphOS does enjoy
a steadily growing base of "native" software, and there is much
more planned...games, an office package, demos, another OS update
and more are all "in the works"...

IMO...I bought a Peg II, basically because I needed a new machine to
fill my tech-hobby cravings, and also because, in comparison to other
solutions, I felt that the Pegasos enjoyed the more "progressive"
development - and therefore the best chance to enjoy some
amount of success in the market. The hardware, despite not being
entirely "cutting edge", is still very capable, and also somewhat
of an interesting anomaly amongst the "throng". I'm having a blast
with MorphOS, in all honesty probably more fun than I've had with
any computer since my Commodore 128...

My old, somewhat 'souped up' A1200 - which I originally intended to
run right beside my Pegasos - is now collecting dust in the closet...


--edit--

Although you didn't ask, if you haven't already
checked out AROS, now may be a good time...in
fact, I'm currently sourcing a laptop for the
sole intention of running it.
 

[Hooligan_DCS]

Though I have only used A1 twice, I'd choose Pegasos. Price/Performance difference is huge.

[Alkemyst]

Considering OS4 is still in an "Alpha" state and Morphos in a much more advanced (working) state its no contest. In all the demos I've seen I only see a couple of apps running. I'd like to see a list of software that works right now on AOS4.

Aos4 is Beta state HERE

[lempkee]

I prefer AmigaOne as that runs AmigaOs , and thats the sole reason why i sticked to amiga when everybody else left (99-2003).

no doubt that the pegasos 2 is a nice machine , but it doesnt got os4 and thats what makes me prefer the a1 over it.

i must add that ihave owned both peg 1 and a1 XeG4 and that both i sold after a shorter time (sold the a1 due to money probs and the peg1 due to hw probs) but i will not say that peg2 is better or worse than its first one as i need to see it and test it , but i am really looking forward to the AmigaOne Micro , if the price is right then i am sure alot will follow that one i guess.


anyway aOs4 aint out yet but it will be shortly , morphs1.4 is out but thats still beta and missing a few crucial things but by no means useless if you have some amiga experience or an second machine (ie an classic amiga).

i put my 2 pence on (for now) both peg2 and a1, both have its up's and downs but the biggest one is that AmigaOne has the name + Os4.

cheers

[Lando]

Invisix wrote:
I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

I prefer the Pegasos II.

The Pegasos II seems to be the better system, and cheaper!

Yep.  That's why so many people prefer it (those who aren't too bothered about the "name").

However, I have a question reguarding MorphOS. Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Yes.  System-friendly apps run well, hardware banging apps run through UAE.  

Also, both WarpUP and PowerUP PPC applications run very well under MorphOS.  

I think that if you were to buy a Pegasos, you'd be very happy with your purchase.  I'm about to buy a G4 Pegasos, and sell my Mac :-)

Thanks! :-D

:-)

[Madgun68]

@HotRod

AmigaWriter, Final Writer and Word Worth all does the job for me. I don't need anything more advanced. But if it isn't enough for you you can use Page Stream instead.

I do use AmigaWriter. I just won't use it for my college work, where the instructor requires a specific layout.

It's all a matter of priority as usual. If you can't stand to use two systems stay with Windows.

I do use one of them.. :-P Well, i used to use my Pegasos a lot more than I do now. It used to dislike my first KVM but it absolutely hates my new one. I refuse to redesign my deskspace just for it. (okay, heading back on topic.)

Regarding the price.... well Amiga has allways been more expensive than a PC if you look at CPU-speed and memory. I could've gotten a 486 with more memory, bigger harddrive and a higher clock-rate wich people seems to be looking at just as much today as they did back then but I choosed the A4000 instead. I've been very happy with my choice.

Yes, but there's less choice now.  People that couldn't afford the high cost of an A4000 could usually afford an A1200.  That option isn't currently available.

[takemehomegrandma]

Invisix wrote:
I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

The Pegasos II seems to be the better system, and cheaper! However, I have a question reguarding MorphOS. Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Thanks! :-D

The Pegasos wins by far IMO. Better price, better features, more OS's, etc, and it has MorphOS! (You won't be able to run MorphOS on the A1's ...  ;-)  :-P  :-D)

If it runs Amiga programs? Well, many people sees the Pegasos/MorphOS combinations as a Next Generation Amiga. Me myself is using my Pegasos/MorphOS as my *only* amiga since a year back. That should answer your question ... ;-)