I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!

[NovaCoder]

You can if you want but I don't think you really need to for cooling (I've never bothered), it also looks ugly when you raise the case.   Just check to make sure the FAN/RAM isn't hitting the desk.

Do not install the trap door cover, instead you should use a drop of hot-glue to keep your card stable in the case.

[fishy_fiz]

re: movies

Ive always been interested to see what an '060 can do in the way of video. Dont expect videos you've downloaded to be anything more than a slideshow, but when converted to use non compressed (or very lightly) video formats its possible to get some decent results on any (amiga) system. Im personally running a 40mhz '040, and experimented a bit. Got some decent results, but for dvd-ish quality video transfer rates (plus possibly AGA limits) seem to be the bottleneck.

Funny enough Ive never seen anyone try what is possible movie wise with an '060. Would be interesting to see if there ends up being the same sort of bottlenecks Im experiencing.

Good luck with it (and congrats by the way)

[XDelusion]

What resolutions are you using, FPS, format, audio, etc. etc. ?

re: movies

Ive always been interested to see what an '060 can do in the way of video. Dont expect videos you've downloaded to be anything more than a slideshow, but when converted to use non compressed (or very lightly) video formats its possible to get some decent results on any (amiga) system. Im personally running a 40mhz '040, and experimented a bit. Got some decent results, but for dvd-ish quality video transfer rates (plus possibly AGA limits) seem to be the bottleneck.

Funny enough Ive never seen anyone try what is possible movie wise with an '060. Would be interesting to see if there ends up being the same sort of bottlenecks Im experiencing.

Good luck with it (and congrats by the way)

[fishy_fiz]

My experiments were with iff anims + wav file audio.
Could well be better options, but Ive gone in mostly blind and am still learning the ropes.
Ive tried both 320x240, and 640x512 (both 8bit color, which looks nicer than I expected). Audio iirc was 16bit/22050 and 8bit/11025 stereo respectively for no reason other than I was experimenting.

[AmigaClassicRule]

Hey Fishy_fiz, can you download this tv show in parts into your Windows machine and extract them there then transfer them to your Amiga system?

Ren and Stimpy Part 2: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gszb13allwcw3w3
Ren and Stimpy Part 1: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?huhigfzvgdc7iue
Ren and Stimpy Part 3: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?v6ncelgb161djnp

Use this HAM player: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fs7n05xgcw3c731

Tell me fishy_fiz about the speed of the movie, quality, sound, etc how it runs in your Amiga and what you think?

P.S "I know this is the worst example, probably because this was my first attempt and I was learning the rope. So the quality is not top notche and the audio does not sync well with video and it is not 100% complete. However it is a demo of the speed, picture and audio running in your system. The other movies and tv shows have improved by every attempt until I actually perfected 100%. The new movies use AGA, the audio/video synch 100% and the quality is close to DVD as Amiga AGA can give in HAM 8."

[AmigaClassicRule]

I just wanted to give you guys an update. I received my Apollo card and it is running at 80 Mhz as indicated, of course I have not followed Lurch advice yet in getting full optimization of it. But here is a good news about this card. It already comes with an additional 32 MB of RAM slot on the back side and I have managed to install it in the keyboard case without the 32 MB installed so I am left with 32 MB of RAM. Reason behind that is because the keyboard is preventing the 32 MB of RAM from fitting in and that means I will be forced to tower it if I want to expand the RAM to 64 MB of RAM. I have an idea guys...how about I buy this from AmigaKit instead:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=207

Then I can use a normal external PC keyboard to type and I can remove the internal keyboard of the Amiga 1200 and put it somewhere underneath my table or whatever. This way I can install the 32 MB of RAM and there will be huge space for cooling, however the only down side is that it will look a little bit ugly. So is there away I can cover up the space where original A1200 keys should come up with a plastic with tiny ventilation hole? My idea of course will mean I can able to add additional expansion as if it is towered, without the expense of towering my A1200 for just 40 bucks I can be able to use the additional 32 Mb of RAM.

What do you guys think? If you like my idea what advice you can help me from the bold text above?

[Lurch]

Hmm, you might as well look at towering it then. Wouldn't look good but then it will work :-)

[AmigaClassicRule]

Hmm, you might as well look at towering it then. Wouldn't look good but then it will work :-)

 
That is ok. If it means towering I am more than ever happy with just 32 MB of RAM. I just need to get the keyboard reworking again in my Amiga 1200 and I should be fine. Now one more question about the USB Sub for Amiga 1200. Do I need to disable it completely in order to prevent it from consuming so much CPU power or can I just keep it active without hooking any USB devices and it should be fine? Only reason I am asking because when I installed the apollo I believe I disabled the Amiga 1200's keyboard. So I was forced to use a USB keyboard but the movie and the hamp player is on the HD. When it played the cartoon it played it in DVD quality and decent frame rate I would say a good easy 15 FPS if not 17, but the sound sounded like it is crawling a bit as if it was playing the cartoon with CPU running at 100% kind of thing. Is it because of Trident been active? If I disable it would it make a difference in performance? Again, I would have done it myself and avoided posting it here but I am not home now so I am wondering.

[ChaosLord]

Whatever u do, u do not want to use a USB keyboard on your Amiga.  That would be a horrible mistake.

PS/2 keyboards on your Amiga are 100% ok because they do not burn any CPU power.

Amiga keyboards operate for free.  PS/2 keyboards operate for free.  USB keyboards completely frak ur 80Mhz 060 CPU.

You are 100,000x better off towering your miggy and using a PS/2 keyboard.  Or just suffer with a tiny little 32MB RAM.

[AmigaClassicRule]

Whatever u do, u do not want to use a USB keyboard on your Amiga. That would be a horrible mistake.
 
PS/2 keyboards on your Amiga are 100% ok because they do not burn any CPU power.
 
Amiga keyboards operate for free. PS/2 keyboards operate for free. USB keyboards completely frak ur 80Mhz 060 CPU.
 
You are 100,000x better off towering your miggy and using a PS/2 keyboard. Or just suffer with a tiny little 32MB RAM.

 
Hmmm, towering your miggy or suffering with tiny little 32 MB, tower, 32 MB of RAM! Yup, I am convinced. I will stick with my 32 MB if it means sticking with A1200D case! It is not suffering, to me 32 MB is sweet, big baby!! Sure it may mean never playing Quake 2, but that is only one game, however if three to four AWESOME DROLLING new games show up plus quake 2 to Amiga that demands at least 64 MB of RAM then I will consider the major sacrifice. But since it is only 1 GAME, albiet very sweet game but still one game then I will stick with case. HOWEVER, IF DOSBOXAGA WILL NEVER WORK ON 32 MB OF RAM THEN I am running like bullet speed to tower my A1200. The best part of this card is that it already comes with the additional RAM slot upgrade...so really it is just a matter of towering my A1200 and my problem will go away and I will have 64 MB of RAM easy no need to solder or get someone to solder it for me

[AmigaClassicRule]

Hey guys help! My A1200 keeps rebooting with a crash! What can I do to avoid this from happening?

[ChaosLord]

What is the last thing u did to it?

[AmigaClassicRule]

What is the last thing u did to it?

It seems to only crash when booted to the previous OS installation I have before Apollo 1260 was installed. But if I run a game like total chaos it does not crash, if I run any game even boulder dash it does not crash. If I watch a movie it does not crash, as soon as I am in the desktop I have 10 seconds before rebooting commences. This prevents me from doing any necessary changes.

When I wanted to partition my drive through workbench 3.1 boot up disk (no crash by the way) I have lost all data now. I have only now two partitions of 3 GB each from my original 20 GB HD but it is no tusing the correct PFS3 file system and I cannot install OS 3.9 because I do not have a cd player and my USB does not work now. I am only stuck with PCMCIA.

What advice you guys can give me to install the PFS3 file system from workbench 3.1 boot up disk into my HD and how do I go about installing OS 3.9 into my HD?

Any help would be greatly appreciate it. Today I cannot do anything because it is late in the night, but hopefully tomorrow I should be able to start fresh and work on this. Any advice today will be greatly helpful for tomorrow.

[fishy_fiz]

My 1st guess would be libs. Also booting from a 3.1 disk will not show up partitions correctly as you'll effectively have no scsi.device capable of reading beyond 8gig, nor is pfs available. These things are only available when the boot media contains then. It's quite likely youve not lost your data, but rather the partitions cant be read because of no updated scsi.device or file systems when booting from a wb3.1 disk.

[AmigaClassicRule]

My 1st guess would be libs. Also booting from a 3.1 disk will not show up partitions correctly as you'll effectively have no scsi.device capable of reading beyond 8gig, nor is pfs available. These things are only available when the boot media contains then. It's quite likely youve not lost your data, but rather the partitions cant be read because of no updated scsi.device or file systems when booting from a wb3.1 disk.

Assuming i have lost everything and at this point I do not mind at all. I will accept it. I want to start clean fresh installation of OS 3.9 and then clean installation of AmiKit real AGA. But before I do that I want to format all my HD using the new file system PFS3, not FFS or OFS, I want it PFS3. My USB does not work because I do not have an OS to install the driver for it and I am only now stuck with PCMCIA. What advice can you give me to achieve these goals?

Thanks in advance.

[fishy_fiz]

Perhaps try creating an emergency boot disc with OS3.9, then install the OS. Once that's done you can create/edit partition table and file system used. Use a 2nd partition, then copy the OS files across to that, use boot menu to select the secondary OS install, then partition/format original OS install partition with pfs, then copy back. This last step is only necessary if you want the boot partition to also use PFS (recommended anyway).

There's a bunch of ways to go about it, but this should work.

edit: if you find yourself having problems booting the OS3.9 disc (sounds like your current install may not be stable enough) then Winuae might come in handy as you can boot from an ISO without the need for cd drivers. Once its installed you'll have access to os3.9 hdtoolbox and you'll also be able to update your file systems with whatever you like, so you can complete the process on your amiga (or do it under winuae, the choice is yours

Good luck and feel free to ask if you find yourself stuck again.