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Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« on: February 03, 2013, 12:20:11 AM »
Hey guys GREAT NEWS

I got a TV/Monitor as a gift and guess what? IT WORKS IN ALL MODES I'VE TRIED WITH MY INDIVISION MK2 through DVI to HDMI Adaptor.

Its a Vizio Model E240A12 22' i think.

Here are the working modes I tried:

1. NTSC
2. PAL
3. DBL NTSC
4. Multiscan Productivity
5. SuperPlus modes
6. High Gfx HD

I havent not tried the Xtreme drivers yet or other weird amiga modes.

On my 1d4 A1200 w/b1260 and bigfoot psu I get a Perfect Crisp display with NO pixel problems or glitches running for hours!  

This is with the OLD ORIGINAL CORE. One thing odd is that the MK2 seems to  break a lot of demos, and they wont run on my machine :(( I know this because some demos that ran before installing it lock up or black screen now. Wonder why this is.

Also, because we cant configure the core, I do get the offset screen, but the monitor controls help a little. but its not perfect. However in HighGfx modes with "stretch" (scaling) mode its a perfect awesome high  res display.

So if you have an A1200 and Indivision mk2 I highly recommend this tv.
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Re: Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 12:36:38 AM »
*bump* so Indivision mk2 guys can see this
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Re: Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 12:46:11 AM »
Cool thanks for the info, how does it look?   Any pictures or videos?

My Mrk2 seems to work in all modes with my BenQ LCD -> video

I had to use the OverScan Prefs to center and size my PAL modes but now it looks 'ok' although it doesn't display fullscreen.

WorkBench looks fantastic using the SuperPlus driver (800x600).  I can running it in HighGFX up to 1280 but I get those nasty display issues after a few minutes (screen jitters).

This is connected via DVI.

i just wish Jens would pull his finger out and finally deliver the firmware for this card.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2013, 12:49:02 AM by NovaCoder »
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Re: Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2013, 12:58:18 AM »
Nova

I'll take some pics when I get a chance. The PAL and NTSC modes are off center and its annoying but at least they work. Also, they dont take up the whole screen. Hard to explain i'll post pics soon.

I was runnning Superplus but now running a widescreen HighGFX HD mode and love it. Rock solid.
Best of all I dont have ANY glitches or problems in any of my modes. And i've had it running for hours.

As far as the new cores it looks like they are having problems getting it working properly :(
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Re: Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2013, 04:15:41 AM »
In PAL mode with PAL games, do you get smooth scrolling or jerkiness?

How about demos? Smooth scrolling of text?
 

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Re: Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2013, 01:31:18 AM »
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In PAL mode with PAL games, do you get smooth scrolling or jerkiness?

How about demos? Smooth scrolling of text?


Broken Demos seem to run fine although some demos that worked before sometimes dont with the MK2.

As far as games I dont play alot of scrolling games, but the one I did play I did notice a lag in the scrolling (I think it was Castelvania)


There hasnt been a peep from jens about the new cores :(
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Re: Vizio e240a12 works in all modes with indivision mk2!
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2013, 05:05:07 PM »
You will always get lag with digital monitors.  Its the way they work.  The only thing that varies is how long the lag is.

Digital monitors work by inputting the whole entire video frame.  1 frame of lag.


Once they have the whole entire frame sitting in memory then they scale it from the size of the input gfx to the size of the output gfx.

If they could scale this really fantastically fast then it would add +0 more frames of lag.  But more realistically you are looking at +1 to +3 frames of lag added.  It all depends how optimized their software is and how powerful their scaling hardware is and how fast their RAM is and so forth.

Supposing there are 2 frames of lag total.  Why?  Why would you buy a small LCD monitor with 2 frames of lag when you can buy a small CRT monitor with 0 frames of lag?

CRT Monitors work by instantaneously inputting, scaling and outputting the incoming video signal 1 line at a time.  They don't wait around all day for the whole frame to transmit.  They output and scale each line as it comes in, in real time.  0 frames of lag.

The only reason to buy an LCD monitor is if you need a giant screen.  But if you need a Giant screen then DLP monitors are (or were) cheaper.   Plasma monitors were reasonably large and around the same price as LCD.  I haven't checked prices lately, sorry.

5 years ago I decided to get a giant monitor.  I went for size and price.  Yes its laggy like an LCD.  But at least it was massively larger and cheaper per square inch than an LCD.  I got a 61" DLP monitor/tv with a pile of inputs and and LED backlight for $2400.00 5 years ago.  Back then an LCD of that size did not even exist but if they did they would have been something like $20,000.00

I mainly use the 61" for watching movies or playing strategy games.  My brothers use it to play PS3 and Xbox 360 and Wii games on it.  The Xbox 360 and PS3 look really really amazing on the HDMI input.  The Wii looks all fuzzy and blurry on the composite input.

For my Amiga use I use 19" or 17" multisync CRT monitors on Amigas equipped with flickerfixers.  That way the monitor does not add lagginess and games and animations can instantly change any pixel of any color to any other color instantly.    Most LCD monitors cannot change a pixel from any color to any other color instantly.  Some color combinations are "too far apart" so it ends up taking longer than 1 frame to change the pixel.  This makes really scewey looking fringing when playing games and it can even happen during movies, which is ridiculous since movies have such a tremendously slow framerate.
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