We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!

[matthey]

Oh, looks like I spoke too soon about the images.  amiga.org gives them.  Well, sort of.  

That is what most RTG users get without friend_bitmap:1 in Choices which gives an improvement. AGA/ECS seems to have problems with friend_bitmap:1 (interleaved bitmap problem?).

Unrelated side-note:  NetSurf does not seem to close cleanly.  After exiting the application, I am unable to delete the following files (screenshot attached).  Says they are still in use.  Obviously not a huge issue, but just FYI.  

You wouldn't be able to delete the directory if this is where you assigned TBImages but you should be able to delete the files inside the directory.

[utri007]

OK I got font problem sorted out, I don't know how did I fix inttellifont and fixfonts together, but now fixfonts run. It has excatly same font folder than my other machine who doesn't say anything about fonts.

Picture is from my 040/32mb/Plain AGA machine. Now it start font errors much latter and it does anytime I do anything with netsurf, like resizing window, scroll down etc. With friendly_bitmap:1 there is no these problems on my RTG machine.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Thanks!  Adding friend_bitmap:1 to the Choices file does seem to have improved rendering (screenshot attached).

Any idea what are the parameters for disc_cache_size:?  I wanted to set it to a moderate size, 10MB.  I entered "10000" in the field, assuming it was in KB, but it promptly used up 100% of my available memory.  So I tried "1000" in the field, and it still used up all of my available memory.  (I am still running it from RAM:, I just wanted to be generous and give it a little more, haha)

On the bright side, the Right-Amiga+Q key combination does work to quit the application when it's run completely out of memory.  

[chris]

Any idea what are the parameters for disc_cache_size:?  I wanted to set it to a moderate size, 10MB.  I entered "10000" in the field, assuming it was in KB, but it promptly used up 100% of my available memory.  So I tried "1000" in the field, and it still used up all of my available memory.  (I am still running it from RAM:, I just wanted to be generous and give it a little more, haha)

It's in bytes, but there's no point if you're running from RAM: - there's an in-memory cache which will be more efficient (which I think is memory_cache_size and defaults to 10MB, might be misremembering though)

[chris]

Unrelated side-note:  NetSurf does not seem to close cleanly.  After exiting the application, I am unable to delete the following files (screenshot attached).  Says they are still in use.  Obviously not a huge issue, but just FYI.  

That's a bitmap.image caching issue.  It always does that.

Side note - is there an option setting to make it open not full-screen?  I like to see my available memory at the top, haha.  

window_width and window_height.  window_x and window_y will be the position of the window, so you might need to adjust those too (I think it defaults to just below the screen title bar though).

Global options are here: http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/desktop/options.h

[chris]

@chris
Rather than conditional preprocessor statements for the AISS assign under OS3, how about turning off requestors while accessing the assign?
[...]
Shouldn't this work under AmigaOS 4 also?

Should do, but the accessing of TBimages was only relevant for OS4.1FE so there's no point in compiling it in.  I've bypassed it completely in this build (well, next build) and conditionally bypassed it if gadtools is too old.

[chris]

New build up, same place (see http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=794001&postcount=569).
This fixes TBimages: and won't whinge about fonts unless they're critical.
Probably no other changes.
I was going to have a nose at the prefs GUI but I haven't had time.

[utri007]

Tested works just like you said. No font whining and no TBImages requester.

[utri007]

I made some testing, memory usage seens to be promising, check picture. It also frees memory after quiting.

Probelm with previous pages seen through is not just perivious pages. If I move Amiga.org, some previous parts can seen through. Tested with blank start page.

Fixed font problem seems to made it more stable with my AGA machine. Resizing window doesn't lock Computer any more.

[wawrzon]

Probelm with previous pages seen through is not just perivious pages. If I move Amiga.org, some previous parts can seen through. Tested with blank start page

a long standing bug i see.. im not sure how much further testing makes sense as long as it isnt fixed.

how is currently the speed comparison to sdl netsurf68k by arti?

[Dandy]

...
Prerequisites: AISS and a PNG DataType.
...

Hmmm - following the AISS-link I found a download-link for aiss419.lha.
Unfortunately the site does not tell anything about the requirements.
Is aiss419.lha the latest version for OS 3.x?
Or is it for AmigaOS 4.x?

Just in case the aiss419.lha archive is for OS 4.x:
I already have the AISS 2.0 archive - would that be sufficiant for Netsurf?

[Dandy]

I've fixed a lot of bad crashing on startup and other problems, to the point where NetSurf now works - mostly - on an (emulated) AGA machine.

NetSurf post-3.3 ALPHA for AmigaOS 3.5+ (save everything, back up, etc before using!)
...

Chris,

I`m a bit confused:
I`ve downloaded both - the version of August 16th and the version you uploaded a few days later. While the version I downloaded first seems to be for OS 3.x, the one I just downloaded seems to be for OS 4.x only.

This is what the ReadMe of the version of August 16th says (archive name: netsurf_os3.lha; download date: August 20th, 2015):

"Short:        CSS capable web browser
Uploader:     arturjarosik@gmail.com  (Artur Jarosik)
Author:       NetSurf contributors (Amiga-68k port by Artur Jarosik)
Type:         comm/www
Version:     3.1
Relpaces:     comm/www/netsurf-m68k.lha
Architecture: m68k-amigaos >= 3.0.0
...

 Requirements:
 =============

  * AmigaOS 3.x
  * Picasso / CGX compatible graphic card.
  * 32 MB Ram (64MB for complex sites).
  * 68020+ CPU with FPU, for usable speed 68060 or emulator is required.
  * OpenURL for mailto:.

    Optional:
    --------
    * FFplay in C: for video/audio streaming & youtube playback (see Aminet)
    * Mount TCP: for getvideo (see Assigns file)
 "


And this is what the ReadMe of the version I just downloaded from the same link says (archive name: netsurf_os3.lha; download date: September 2nd, 2015):

"Short:        Fast CSS capable web browser
Uploader:     chris@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk (Chris Young)
Author:       NetSurf contributors (OS4 port by Chris Young)
Type:         comm/www
Version:      3.4
Architecture: ppc-amigaos >= 4.0.0

This is NetSurf 3.4 for AmigaOS 4.
For the latest version, visit http://www.netsurf-browser.org


Can you please advise which version I should try?

I also visited http://www.http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/amiga/ for the latest version, but all I found there was:
" NetSurf 3.2 for AmigaOS (5.9MB) 30 Aug 2014

Requires: AmigaOS 4 "

[utri007]

Dandy version you downloaded is Arthurs's version, wich uses SDL and Framebuffer frontend. Frambuffer version of Netsurf is meant to be used debuggin and NO GUI systems like a DOS. It has never meant to be used like Arhur does with it. It lacks many essential features, as it doesn't have a GUI.

Chris version of Netsurf is based to Amiga OS4 sources, Chris maintains OS4 version. It has native GUI (Reaction) and all the features wich Netsurf has. (menus, tabs etc.)

I very much doubt that you downloaded Arthurs version from Chris link. Maybe you downloaded it from Aminet?

[Dandy]

Dandy version you downloaded is Arthurs's version, wich uses SDL and Framebuffer frontend. Frambuffer version of Netsurf is meant to be used debuggin and NO GUI systems like a DOS. It has never meant to be used like Arhur does with it. It lacks many essential features, as it doesn't have a GUI.

Chris version of Netsurf is based to Amiga OS4 sources, Chris maintains OS4 version. It has native GUI (Reaction) and all the features wich Netsurf has. (menus, tabs etc.)

I very much doubt that you downloaded Arthurs version from Chris link. Maybe you downloaded it from Aminet?

Well, I downloaded it from the link on Amiga-News.de (http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2015-08-00045-DE.html) both times.
cgutjahr told me, that Chris updated the archive 5 days after the news item, the link being the same.

EDIT:
Do you have information regarding the version of AISS (see my first posting #625 today)?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

EDIT:
Do you have information regarding the version of AISS (see my first posting #625 today)?

I saw that and was confused about it, as well.  To a layman, one of the things I struggled with is the lack of documentation on this project.  Not to say that Chris isn't doing great work, the browser definitely works on classic systems, but obviously it's not without issues.  It's a big project for just one guy.

Anyhow, if you're trying to run this on a classic system you need to download the version from this thread, AISS is not required (at least I didn't need to install it, I'm running OS3.9 + BB1-4 + WarpDT's).  Just unpack the archive, run the installer, it installs to a directory, assign NetSurf: to point that directory, and run it from the icon.  You'll probably want to play around with the config options, there's a a few tips on those buried somewhere in this thread, haha.

Good luck, post a screenshot when you get it running!  

[wawrzon]

 To a layman, one of the things I struggled with is the lack of documentation on this project.

of course its beta stage. therefore up to date documentation isnt a priority of course. if someone can program this much someone else should be able to read through few pages of the thread.