We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!

[chris]

@samo79

Yes, it dies horribly under OS4.  I don't know why and I don't care - because of all the updated components it's useless for debugging anyway (not to mention the version checks with embedded #defines checking for OS4, meaning most of the parts that are supposed to do blitting do nothing instead).

[utri007]

I have two log files for you. Smaller one stopped for a guru. Bigger one has very weird volume request.

It does something weird to memory?

[chris]

It does something weird to memory?

There is some memory trashing going on I think, although I'm not sure where yet.

Can you check if you have a "FONTS:CGTriumvirate.otag".  If not, do you have "FONTS:CGTriumvirate.font"?  If you have the latter, the size should be 4 bytes.

edit Actually, I can see your list of fonts and the CG ones aren't there - they should be installed by default.  You might need to run IntelliFont and re-install them from FONTS:_bullet_outlines

If you have other outline fonts you can use those instead, but I'm curious as to why you and Oldsmobile_Mike both have them missing when they are part of a basic OS3.1/5 install (and should be part of an OS3.9 install too).

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Not sure if this is helpful info or not, but I am using diskfont.library version 45.8 (08/30/2010), my ENVARC: font cache is enabled, and I have both FONTS:CGTriumvirate.otag (205 bytes) and FONTS:CGTriumvirate.font (4 bytes) installed.

Running OS3.9 with BB1-4 plus (*ahem*) "a few other patches".  I am not running MCP.

If any of that info helps your troubleshooting?  Thanks for all your hard work on this!  I'll need to find your post about cutting down on the memory usage, haha.  

[chris]

Not sure if this is helpful info or not, but I am using diskfont.library version 45.8 (08/30/2010), my ENVARC: font cache is enabled, and I have both FONTS:CGTriumvirate.otag (205 bytes) and FONTS:CGTriumvirate.font (4 bytes) installed.

And you're getting the "Unable to open CGTriumvirate" message?
Can you run "NetSurf -V RAM:ns.log" so I can take a look at the log file?  Just want to see if it is tripping over opening the .otag file like utri's is.

(oh yes, and four bytes is correct, not eight, misread the structure definition)

[utri007]

My mistake, I didn't have those fonts installed. Now when I copied them to Fonts: it doesn't gave that error anymore. My fonts are same size than Oldsmobile_mike has.

No fonts displayed though.

My system is prety much standard BB1/2 though I have 1mb rom with additional filesystem support and best possible scsi.device. MCP and FBLit running.

[matthey]

The new version of NetSurf works ok here after making the assign. My RTG results and improvement for friend_bitmap:1 match utri007's results. My system seems stable and my debug setup hasn't caught any MuForce hits or memory problems with loading amiga.org and scrolling around. Visually it looks like the last version with the gfx overwrite and fonts lacking proper spacing. The speed seems similar to the last version.

[utri007]

True with friend_bimap:1 it seems to be stable. Without it, it usually starts, but crash quite soon. Seems that with -v or -V it causes more troubles, very random crashes and weird requests, graphics corruption to Window background pattern, etc

[chris]

My mistake, I didn't have those fonts installed. Now when I copied them to Fonts: it doesn't gave that error anymore. My fonts are same size than Oldsmobile_mike has.

No fonts displayed though.

Just to be clear, you do have the files in _bullet_outlines and _bullet installed as well?

Can you do me another log file?

MCP and FBLit running.

I'm not sure what MCP does, but FBlit might have adverse effects.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I'm not sure what MCP does

I believe it's mentioned somewhere that MCP can interfere with the way the system caches fonts, that's why I mentioned it.  

[chris]

I believe it's mentioned somewhere that MCP can interfere with the way the system caches fonts, that's why I mentioned it.  

Still waiting for your log file, Mike

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Still waiting for your log file, Mike

Working on it now.  FYI NetSurf still won't run from hard drive.  If I so much as click on the icon or enter it's name from the shell, results in immediate system lock-up or reset.  But it runs "fine" from RAM:.  Go figure.

Edit: also it would not run with the -V option enabled (even from ram: ).  Started to load, did the font-scanning thing, asked for the assign for "TBImages", then locked up the system.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Aaargh!  It's being especially unfriendly today.  Just tried for the 5th or 6th reboot.  Got a whole bunch of font errors (the usual ones), then when I tried to resize the window so I could see my title bar, it froze the system again.  I get no love from this program!  

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

A little progress!  It consumed 53MB of memory just to load http://www.google.com.  And not even with images.  On the bright side, at least it's no longer defaulting me to Google-Poland, like the old version was!  

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I notice it asks for those fonts *a lot* (first screenshot).  But eventually (when it feels like working) it will load the page (second screenshot, Google search for "amiga").  I didn't get much further than this, it ran out of memory and started giving "Timeout was reached" messages in the Output window.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I managed to quit the program and it only returned about 12MB of memory.  Not surprisingly, 37MB was still tied up in the cache.    This might not be an issue for me if I could get it to run from disk (and put it's cache on disk), but so far I've had zero success with that.