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Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #434 from previous page: February 07, 2015, 09:10:54 AM »
Checked memory usage, time of crash 200kb chip and 5000kb fast.
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Offline chris

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #435 on: February 07, 2015, 11:57:43 AM »
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Checked memory usage, time of crash 200kb chip and 5000kb fast.


Try a lower res screen?
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Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #436 on: February 07, 2015, 12:44:40 PM »
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Try a lower res screen?


No need to check wit lower resolution. Memory wasn't problem, there was plenty of it still availlable, both chip and fast. Biggest contiouns was 11mb or 11000kb

Or did you have something else on mind?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline chris

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #437 on: February 07, 2015, 03:49:48 PM »
Quote from: utri007;783255
No need to check wit lower resolution. Memory wasn't problem, there was plenty of it still availlable, both chip and fast. Biggest contiouns was 11mb or 11000kb


200K chip mem free doesn't seem like much...
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Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #438 on: February 07, 2015, 05:06:17 PM »
Quote from: chris;783260
200K chip mem free doesn't seem like much...


Sorry, I wasn't clear. :( Netsurf memory usage was 200kb chip and 5000kp fast. So there was a 1100kb chip free and 13 000kb fast free. Biggest continous block was 11 000kb
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline chris

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #439 on: February 07, 2015, 08:01:28 PM »
Quote from: utri007;783266
Sorry, I wasn't clear. :( Netsurf memory usage was 200kb chip and 5000kp fast. So there was a 1100kb chip free and 13 000kb fast free. Biggest continous block was 11 000kb

Ah, OK, definitely not that then.

We'll probably have to wait to see if Matthey can analyse those Guru errors, unless anybody else here is able to in his absence?
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Offline wawrzon

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #440 on: February 08, 2015, 12:24:32 AM »
sorry chris, have been testing the new archive but have no definite result to report yet, as to where the problem might be. im not at my studio now, but i might test in uae tomorrow or on real hardware if i get back to it. hold on.
 

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Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #441 on: February 10, 2015, 10:11:52 PM »
I'm back. I tried the newest archive and it has problems. The welcome page no longer loads nor does any other page. I can't quit either. I get this MuForce hit:

Code: [Select]
LONG WRITE to  ABADF00D        data=090D7B6C   PC: 00F81A10
USP : 090D7B68 SR: 0000  (U0)(F)(-)  TCB: 090C8758
Data: 097E69E8 00000034 00000318 0000024B 00000318 0000024B 00000034 00000008
Addr: ABADF00D 090D7B6C 09086FBC 090C8758 097E698C 097E698C 080008D4 0828056C
Stck: 00F82D50 097E69E8 ABADF00D 090C8758 097E698C 00000034 097E69D4 09086FBC
Stck: 0882AF88 090D7BFE 0883486E 09086FBC 00000318 0000024B 00000000 00000000
Stck: 00000000 00000000 09086FBC 090C8758 00000000 090D868C 08013BB4 00000400
----> 00F81A10 - "ROM - exec 45.20 (6.1.2002)"  Hunk 0000 Offset 00001962
----> 00F82D50 - "ROM - exec 45.20 (6.1.2002)"  Hunk 0000 Offset 00002CA2
----> 09086FBC - "NetSurf"  Hunk 0002 Offset 0003B604
----> 0882AF88 - "LIBS:picasso96/rtg.library"  Hunk 0002 Offset 000165B0
----> 0883486E - "LIBS:picasso96/rtg.library"  Hunk 0004 Offset 00007EB6
----> 09086FBC - "NetSurf"  Hunk 0002 Offset 0003B604
----> 09086FBC - "NetSurf"  Hunk 0002 Offset 0003B604
00f81a00 :  5888                       addq.l #$4,a0
00f81a02 :  2028 0004                  move.l $4(a0),d0
00f81a06 :  2149 0004                  move.l a1,$4(a0)
00f81a0a :  c188                       exg.l d0,a0
00f81a0c :  48d1 0101                  movem.l d0/a0,(a1)
00f81a10 : *2089                       move.l a1,(a0)
00f81a12 :  4e75                       rts
Name: "NetSurf"

I believe ABADF00D is a pointer from unitialized memory. This may be exec list related. Do I need to debug this?
 

Offline chris

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #442 on: February 10, 2015, 10:45:59 PM »
Quote from: matthey;783581
I'm back. I tried the newest archive and it has problems. The welcome page no longer loads nor does any other page. I can't quit either. I get this MuForce hit:

I believe ABADF00D is a pointer from unitialized memory. This may be exec list related. Do I need to debug this?


Yes please, as I don't know what I've changed to cause that!
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Offline wawrzon

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #443 on: February 10, 2015, 11:45:01 PM »
i didnt test quitting till lately, so i cant say it was possible previously, still it definitely didnt worked with the last one. matt, have you test it, since it may been the case all along and not being a new bug?
 

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Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #444 on: February 11, 2015, 12:01:24 AM »
Quote from: wawrzon;783592
i didnt test quitting till lately, so i cant say it was possible previously, still it definitely didnt worked with the last one. matt, have you test it, since it may been the case all along and not being a new bug?

I went back to the last version I was using before I left and it works fine including displaying pages and quitting from the menu,

@Chris
The MuForce hit occurs inside exec.library AddTail(). The list *lh_Tail (offset 4) is where ABADF00D comes from so the list is unitialized or corrupt. I'll see if I can figure out where in NetSurf the call comes from.

Edit: I believe the hit comes from a graphics.library RectFill() call in ami_plot_clear_bbox(). RectFill() in the graphics.library calls a function in the P96 rtg.library which calls an ObtainSemaphore() in exec.library which calls AddTail() where the hit happens and then it calls Wait() where it waits for a very long time.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 02:03:15 AM by matthey »
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #445 on: February 11, 2015, 04:00:37 PM »
i just put a network card again in my a4k/060/mediator box. loading time till gui along with checking fonts which i have plenty is acceptable.
however the actual build of netsurf doesnt seem to load fully. the gui seems to work, i can type into an addres field and invoke menus, but neither seem to have any effect. i cant though resize window. must retest in uae..

is there an option not to run netsurf on separate screen? this annoys me.
 

Offline chris

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #446 on: February 11, 2015, 04:25:34 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;783640
is there an option not to run netsurf on separate screen? this annoys me.


Yes there is.  Actually if you use the Installer script it puts this config in for you :)  Otherwise, have a play around with the Settings=>Edit Preferences options, as I'd like to know if they are working anyway!

@matthey

Ta, easy to fix - I'm not checking that x1
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Offline chris

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #447 on: February 11, 2015, 06:28:11 PM »
Quote from: matthey;783594
The MuForce hit occurs inside exec.library AddTail(). The list *lh_Tail (offset 4) is where ABADF00D comes from so the list is unitialized or corrupt. I'll see if I can figure out where in NetSurf the call comes from.

Edit: I believe the hit comes from a graphics.library RectFill() call in ami_plot_clear_bbox(). RectFill() in the graphics.library calls a function in the P96 rtg.library which calls an ObtainSemaphore() in exec.library which calls AddTail() where the hit happens and then it calls Wait() where it waits for a very long time.

OK, that should be fixed in the new build I've just put up.
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Offline wawrzon

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #448 on: February 11, 2015, 07:00:41 PM »
just tested the fresh download under uae. same result as on real hardware. not dependant on resolution or color depth. do you guys are able to interact with the browser your place? log needed?
 

Offline matthey

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Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #449 on: February 11, 2015, 07:13:07 PM »
Quote from: chris;783652
OK, that should be fixed in the new build I've just put up.

Same result here also, It still has the hit in AddTail() from RectFill() and then NetSurf is unresponsive.