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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2013, 05:57:00 PM »
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That's the theme from the movie Goonies!

Also there's an extended (1 min.) version of that ad, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06di_a588b0


Goonies.. ahh, will have to dig out my DVD :-) I remember the cyndi lauper song that's about the only music I remember from that movie.

But that advert is done really well.
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2013, 12:20:08 AM »
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They are still using the same tactic's today...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrRHPf0_B3M


You cant compare an advertisement for something that's been around for over 10 years and something that is completely new. And the Amiga 1000 was extremely new.

In 2001 the iPod was marketed with the tag line: 1000 songs in your pocket. 11 years later all you need to see is a bunch of them in different SKU's dancing on screen. If in 2012 (when the linked add was first run) somebody doesn't know what an iPod is and what it does, they are well outside the target demographic.

In 1985 the Amiga 1000 was groundbreaking, it needed to identify its target demographic, and that ad did more harm than good.

That said, I love the Amiga Computer for the Creative Mind series of ads. In the 80's this is exactly how you're supposed to market a device like the Amiga 500.
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2013, 01:25:32 AM »
First of all this commercial is from 1985, a time when nobody actually knew the limits of the Amiga let alone guessed that without Amiga Battlestar Galactica 2004-2007 would never have happened (the CGI is all Lightwave, which exists only from the profits of Digi-view and that only exists from the leftover unused sections of the A1000 chipset which became HAM mode). This is a time when it was ludicrous to expect your computer would be simple and friendly, play any sound you could possibly digitize and display any animation or still image with an unheard of level of realism possible on any other personal desktop computer.

Secondly it is clearly going to be subject to the look and feel of the 80s, which frankly is Miami Vice or Manhunter etc etc so you can hate it as much as you like but this is what good adverts looked like in the 80s, a bit of sophistication.

But so what if it doesn't show someone using a computer, if the person didn't look like a spotty geek it wouldn't look real and such a thing on screen will not align with their target market (professionals or bored yuppies who need the best not a chumps breeze block calculator).

So in essence it is a commercial designed for well appointed successful individuals who don't want some nasty piece of tech but a beautifully elegant looking and friendly operating environment computer. The fact that it is the best creative computer ever created out of the box is nailed with a single line too, for once it is a truthful statement.

We were not the target audience beware, I bought it based on tech specs alone as did most of us coming from earlier 8 bit micros, but the kind of people who that visual style is familiar and who do actually want to do creative things on computers. And let's face it the A1000 on the pedestal looks gorgeous.

It's not as memorable as the C64 elephant adverts sure but it gets its point across perfectly in both intent (a creative machine not some piece of crap spreadsheet) and as soon as you use an A1000 and a Mac 128k/SE together only an idiot would choose that Apple monochrome P.O.S.

Commodore's problem was we didn't get classy ads like this outside the US and then we got none at all in 1986 while we were waiting for that other suicidal business plan "drop all promotion on the 1000 for a year while we wait for technically identical A500 24 months after the 1000's launch"

In essence they were going for lawyer's offices and art studios and animation groups etc and this fits in perfectly, the kind of offices they wanted it in were just as ostentatious and ludicrously expensive in decoration.
 

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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2013, 05:17:48 AM »
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You cant compare an advertisement for something that's been around for over 10 years and something that is completely new. And the Amiga 1000 was extremely new.


Not sure what you are on about, I was replying to ral-clan's comment (below) stating that Apple still use the same marketing.

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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2013, 12:32:56 PM »
The 80's and classy don't go together.  Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjIHrb-aSI8
 

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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2013, 12:47:52 PM »
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The 80's and classy don't go together.  Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjIHrb-aSI8

I LOVE that commercial, and I've never seen it before!  The giant computers are really good replicas!
I wouldn't say that commercial isn't classy - well, it's more good natured fun, but definitely not "tacky" or embarassing.
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2013, 01:12:32 PM »
Most adverts don't tell you very much about the products. Especially car adverts, which usually either sell them as ways for young people to be independent or confident, or for family holidays. They're selling you a lifestyle rather than a product. Even though we all know the reality is very different.

The 1984 Mac advert references George Orwell's Nineteen-Eighty-Four, so you get the idea that the Mac is a rebel against mindless conformity.

This Amiga ad references 2001: A Space Odyssey with the Amiga playing the part of the Monolith that stimulates technological advancement.

Better than the ads that I remember anyway, that seemed to market Amiga like toys.
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2013, 01:24:14 PM »
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Most adverts don't tell you very much about the products.

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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2013, 01:27:59 PM »
What a crap ad. Were they selling stairs and floors!
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2013, 01:28:27 PM »
Of course this advert shows exactly why someone would need a Renault 21:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyfLbGlGr2s
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2013, 07:57:59 PM »
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Re: With commericals like this in 1985 it's a wonder they sold any Amigas
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2013, 09:34:39 PM »
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Fav ad at the moment :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZfkSAQWz9E


lol, that is epic! :D
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