which turbo card is better?

[Marcin1982]

Hi , which card is better ACA 1232 33mhz/25mhz new or old Blizzard 1230 Phase 5 50 mhz , for my Amiga 1200 rev 1d1

preis the used  blizzard is 170 eur
aca 1232 33 preis is 165 eur
aca 1232 25 140 eur

[bloodline]

I think the Blizzard is probably the better device

[Marcin1982]

more opinions thanks bloodline for you opinions

[freqmax]

50 MHz must be better than 33 MHz

[Crumb]

Hi , which card is better ACA 1232 33mhz/25mhz new or old Blizzard 1230 Phase 5 50 mhz , for my Amiga 1200 rev 1d1

preis the used  blizzard is 170 eur
aca 1232 33 preis is 165 eur
aca 1232 25 140 eur

in Vesalia there are ACA1231/42Mhz for 150 (no MMU) and 180 (with MMU). It seems ACA1231/42Mhz is faster than Blizzard1230/50 thanks to its faster memory interface.

Are you going to install scsi drives? In that case Blizzard is the only option, otherwise I would probably choose ACA1231/42

[Marcin1982]

no , i have only ide standard hdd , ACA 1231 is not available in shop my country, only choice is aca1232 25 or 33

[som99]

Depends, do you need scsi,  how much ram do you need? Do you need FPU?
If you need much ram the aca-1232 or blizzard with 128MB or 256MB ram with scsi add-on is your bet.

If you do not need scsi or FPU or more then 64MB ram I would say get the aca-1231/42MHz.

Since I do not need FPU on my 1200 I have an aca-1231/42MHz, I am fully happy  and do not need more then 64MB ram. I'll take the faster CPU any day over 128MB ram from the 1232.

Tho I would like scsi but I like to have new hardware, less chance of it breaking (I hope).
This is my views.

I thought vesalia shipped world wide?

[Marcin1982]

no need fpu no need big ram , this card is only for Whdload

[som99]

no need fpu no need big ram , this card is only for Whdload

Do you plan to play the basic 3D games like gloom etc?
If not all you need is a ram expansion or the aca-1220 if you have a hard time to find a decent ram expansion.
You can play most whdload games without an 030.

So the cheapest route depending what you want to do is a ram expansion, 4 or 8MB trapdoor expansion will get you quite far for whdload.

[Lurch]

If you do not need scsi or FPU or more then 64MB ram I would say get the aca-1231/42MHz.

I thought vesalia shipped world wide?

The ACA 1231 is an amazing card, very fast. But pushes the A1200, I ended up with timing issues.

My A1200 is off getting fixed, will be a good combination once it's all together again :-)


Vesalia do have worldwide shipping, and the only place to get the ACA 1231 as a new item :-)

[klx300r]

Do you plan to play the basic 3D games like gloom etc?
If not all you need is a ram expansion or the aca-1220 if you have a hard time to find a decent ram expansion.
You can play most whdload games without an 030.

So the cheapest route depending what you want to do is a ram expansion, 4 or 8MB trapdoor expansion will get you quite far for whdload.

this is very true as I have a Blizzard 1220 @33 with FPU & 4MB that works great with WHDLoad.  Actually played Wing Commander a while back and I was surprised it held its own compared to my Blizzard 030@50-32MB (though obviously the 030@50 was much smoother when there was more than a few fighters around you :-)

[dariusz_wisniewski]

no need fpu no need big ram , this card is only for Whdload

If no need for FPU, I think ACA will be better. I have Blizzard and love this card, but I choose this card because of FPU. If you are from Poland, you can buy ACA in retroami, in Poland.

[Damion]

I think the Blizzard is probably the better device

This. :pint:

[som99]

The ACA 1231 is an amazing card, very fast. But pushes the A1200, I ended up with timing issues.

My A1200 is off getting fixed, will be a good combination once it's all together again :-)


Vesalia do have worldwide shipping, and the only place to get the ACA 1231 as a new item :-)

I also had to do timing fixes on my A1200, have you heard anything from amigakit on how its going? tho I have heat issues with Lisa with the indivision AGA MK2, no one can explain why but my miggy is not usable without active cooling. But it works great so besides some fans it runs great so I do not complain also when I did the timing fixes I had no issues and could do it myself I recently got my hands on nice copper heatplates from old macs which I will use to build new cooling

this is very true as I have a Blizzard 1220 @33 with FPU & 4MB that works great with WHDLoad.  Actually played Wing Commander a while back and I was surprised it held its own compared to my Blizzard 030@50-32MB (though obviously the 030@50 was much smoother when there was more than a few fighters around you :-)

Yeah a few megs of extra ram can take you a long way I've also played a lot of whdload games on just a few extra megs in the past, if it did not run removing the preload tag did get quite a few large games to run anyways

[Bobo68]

It seems ACA1231/42Mhz is faster than Blizzard1230/50 thanks to its faster memory interface.

 It seems 030 doesn't understand that memory is faster and works with both in fast page mode