AmiBay or eBay?

[spajdr]

I like Amibay for selling your items.
But if you want to buy something, its like lottery, when you need something badly, you cant find it and where it suddenly appears, someone else ask for it first, no bidding.
Also i cant imagine to buy something and get nothing, from someone who is selling over amibay for the first time, how you get your money back?

[fitzsteve]

I like Amibay for selling your items.
But if you want to buy something, its like lottery, when you need something badly, you cant find it and where it suddenly appears, someone else ask for it first, no bidding.
Also i cant imagine to buy something and get nothing, from someone who is selling over amibay for the first time, how you get your money back?

If you are buying through any forum unless you trust that person 100% make sure you pay with the PayPal 'goods' option this will give you PayPal protection if the seller turns out to be a fraud.

If the seller is insistent on you using an unsecured payment method such as bank transfer of the 'PayPal 'gift' option you can always walk away or in the latter you can offer to pay the PayPal fee's if they accept your 'goods' payment or raise you a proper invoice, if the seller is genuine I'm sure they would accommodate

[spajdr]

If you are buying through any forum unless you trust that person 100% make sure you pay with the PayPal 'goods' option this will give you PayPal protection if the seller turns out to be a fraud.
 
If the seller is insistent on you using an unsecured payment method such as bank transfer of the 'PayPal 'gift' option you can always walk away or in the latter you can offer to pay the PayPal fee's if they accept your 'goods' payment or raise you a proper invoice, if the seller is genuine I'm sure they would accommodate

Thanks for info steve, well then that part is covered.
But my other concern still stays, even if i can spend more money then others on something, it still means nothing and sometimes you get it by pure luck.
I wish there would be some kind of [Auction] option on amibay.

[magnetic]

Do you mean they can check your PM and watch all the messages there? That would indeed be a privacy breach.

Not only Can they check your PM they DO read them. Not only this, but they will internet stalk you if they can as well. I started getting back into classic stuff and bough a nice a1200 ntsc unit. I needed an accelerator so turned to amibay. I bought a matrix 030 w/32mb and liked it but I didnt know it only could have 32mb max. So like 2 weeks later I find a nice Apollo card and sell the Matrix I got on Amibay to a friend, who then sold it on ebay. The mods at amibay did an "investigation" which basically was reading PMs, internet stalking me, and amazing privacy invasion. When I spoke up about it very vocally to the mods they LIFE BANNED ME.  Thats right LIFE.  First offence no warning nothing. I think it was more because I called them out on privacy invasion and creating false accusations.

The arrogance and private club mentality combined with fascist moderation and control, with "Big Brother" overtones is enough to make anyone crazy. Sure, you will hear guys here so "amibay is wonderful and fun and its about community" yeah sure. Their idea of "community" is more like "communism" Everything is rosy until you do anything the masters dont agree with then you will see. (like for instance pricing your hardware for sale what YOU think its worth - they want you to post it for the price THEY think you should) you see? Just like good ole times with Chairman Mao.

[magnetic]

Another thing I forgot to mention why Ebay is WAAAY better than Amibay is that you have a lot of protections in the transaction. There is virtually zero on amibay.

[fitzsteve]

I've never heard of anyone reading private messages on Amibay, I think you dreamed that one up.

You are free to set whatever price you like and rules forbid any comment on the price so I don't understand how you can think the moderation team want to control the price, they do not.

Pretty much everything you write about Amibay is BS, any tread that has the mention of Amibay you turn into this personal rant of yours.

You broke the rules, you got banned, get over it.

[AmiDude]

I avoid the ebay paypal crime syndicate.

If you want to do business with me then you must accept payment via a reputable process such as:
AmazonPay
USD $ (sometimes called "cash" or "greenbacks")
Check (from a US Bank)

None of the above charges you any fees.

I will never use PayPal criminals again.

+1 :biglaugh:

[rvo_nl]

I dont have a problem with either amibay or paypal. But, last time I tried selling something on ebay it refused to list the item 'world-wide'. This had something to do with the payment options I was providing, but even after repeatedly changing them and reading the help pages, I couldnt get it done and stuck with amibay instead.

[SpeedGeek]

This Amibay bashing is getting old. It's been said before Amibay is not for everyone. It's an ebay alternative site established with the goal of trying to keep prices more reasonable. The rules may seem like a nuisance at times but they do have a purpose.

The site has a warning about Paypal in Gift payments if you take the time to read it. If you don't want the risk then just offer to pay the Paypal fees or ignore Paypal in Gift ONLY offers.

Btw, the Amibay staff did not have to read magnetic's PM's to trace the resold item to ebay. The ebay sale was directly linked to original Amibay thread! ...and he really set himself up for a scalping ban with the hard to believe story about flipping the item to a friend who than flipped it for a quick $30 profit on ebay. He could have resold it on Amibay for his purchase cost and avoided the ban. :crazy:

[Lurch]

Amibay is fine, if you get caught breaking the rules of the website then bummer.

I'd man up and admit it, actually you will probably find if you are straight up with the mods there they may have taken a different tact.

[eliyahu]

@thread

i've only had good experiences with amibay. the nice thing about it is that you're getting your hardware from actual amigans rather than someone who found something they 'think' works in a garage when their grandparent died. that said, i was able to find my first SAM machine on ebay, and that went well enough.

the mods on amibay have always been very helpful in my experience.

-- eliyahu

[Damion]

I have never been burned buying amiga gear from an ebay seller with 100% feedback. I have been had a few times by "amigans" however, selling items through the forums that were either partially, or (most recently), fully defective. One thing to consider, sometimes folks who have lost their ebay account look for alternative venues for sales.

My big mistake: buying things for computers that weren't currently running (future projects, etc) and not taking time to adequately test them immediately after arrival - not always easy to find time when life is busy. I still use AmiBay and have had some excellent experiences there. These days I've also restricted purchasing to items I can immediately test after arrival, and before leaving feedback.

[magnetic]

Speedgeek

You can be "sick" of amibay bashing all you want. But generally in the amiga community any time there are multiple complaints you can bet they have weight.

1. There was no "link" to any amibay anything they internet stalked my friend and myself in their "investigation" and admitted it in the pms (which i cannot access) I wish i could post them here for the truth to be told.

2. I wasnt "scalping" how stupid. I explained in my post here if you read it, that it didnt suit my needs and resold it to a friend who in turn sold it on ebay. ( I dont sell on ebay) How many of you guys have done this before? But because I didnt sell it BACK on amibay like the Masters demand I get banned. First offence, long time amigan, they dont give a **** life ban.  If you arent in their little club you have no chance. And they dont like being called out on their shady behavior of internet stalking and pm reading. Typical geeks, give them a little tiny bit of power they go crazy. How sad

I will continue to expose the behavoir of those who run this "amiga" site that is totally agains the amiga spirit.

[Iggy]

I will never use PayPal criminals again.

Personally, Elon Musk is a hero of mine.

And as far as Ebay goes, I'm buying an '040 A4000 next week for $500 with shipping.

[wawrzon]

regular price id say.

[Iggy]

regular price id say.

Absolutely, it was my offer.
I didn't want to take advantage of the seller or be taken advantage of myself.
Felt like a fair transaction.
Battery has been removed.
Its got a 3640.

I may need to replace Buster.
But since the PCI backplane is going to cost me another <$400, eh, no big deal.
I've already got a Voodoo3 card and a 100mips NIC, and an SCSI wide 2 controller, I just need a sound card.