Nice a4000 060 f/s on ebay

[Amithony]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Amiga-A4000-68060-50Mhz-Deneb-USB-128MB-RAM-40GB-DVD-CV64-/251205626640?pt=AU_Computers_Vintage&hash=item3a7d05ab10

So tempted to buy.

[Bamiga2002]

Overpriced. It's just an A4000D model.

[hese7]

Overpriced.

Not much, maybe a couple hundred.

[ChaosLord]

If it had a Mediator I would buy it.  But as is there is no way to put a 256MB gfx card in that system.  It would be to much work for me to install a mediator.

[alexh]

Overpriced. It's just an A4000D model.

Only just considering it has a Deneb, Zorro III RTG graphics card and a Cyberstorm 060.

[Bamiga2002]

OK it has Deneb which is a very desired card, but just a lousy 4mb video card, Cyberstorm is good, sound card and scandoubler adds some pluses...OK a *bit* overpriced only = quite a decent price.

[Akiko]

Overpriced. It's just an A4000D model.

If you did some research on the likes of Amibay you'll probably find it will typically cost more to buy these parts separate at the current going rates, then you need to take into consideration this seller is also accepting best offers!

The price of this stuff has unfortunately skyrocketed in recent years, way back in 2004 I scored a fully loaded A4000 CSPPC /CVISION machine on the German eBay site for about £350, which is afar cry from today's prices when it probably costs near that now for just the graphics card alone.

[Bamiga2002]

If you did some research on the likes of Amibay you'll probably find it will typically cost more to buy these parts separate at the current going rates, then you need to take into consideration this seller is also accepting best offers!

The price of this stuff has unfortunately skyrocketed in recent years, way back in 2004 I scored a fully loaded A4000 CSPPC /CVISION machine on the German eBay site for about £350, which is afar cry from today's prices when it probably costs near that now for just the graphics card alone.

As you said. But Amibay prices don't dictate what's a decent market price for this kind of lot. But accepting offers is fair in this auction.

And that lot YOU got was a bargain I must say

[danbeaver]

If shipping is only $70 AU, then you are getting a good value system.  The break-up value is higher, but it is a good starting place if you make it an upgrade project with Mediator, Towerization, and the like.  I've got a couple of A4000T's so count me out on this one.

[stefcep2]

@ bamiga:"lousy 4 meg video card".  Huh?  This card is equal quickest zorro 3 card you can buy, and with 4 MB I happily run 1440x1024 @ 16 bit.  Sure no scan doubler, but with my Indivision plugged into the CV64's pass through it is a brilliant set up.  

Just needs a an AHI soundcard and its the complete classic 68 k amiga.

[Iggy]

Personally, if I'm investing in a 4000 it would have to have PCI.
Then I could get a decent RTG card, like a VooDoo3 or A Radeon 9200.
 
Otherwise, I'd look at a 3000 with an '040 or '060 processor and one of Jen's neat flicker fixers (for better graphics modes). Cheaper, still Zorro 3, more compact, and it just looks nicer.

[magnetic]

The price of this stuff has unfortunately skyrocketed in recent years, way back in 2004 I scored a fully loaded A4000 CSPPC /CVISION machine on the German eBay site for about £350, which is afar cry from today's prices when it probably costs near that now for just the graphics card alone.

The reason for these skyrocketing prices is HOARDERS. Thats right, guys out there (many on this board ) with multiple amigas fully loaded (that they dont even use!) with rare parts. Meanwhile, guys who really want rare parts to build an amiga again or to upgrade an old machine are pretty much screwed.

 The irony is these very same guys start threads crying about ebay prices. How laughable.

Having said all this, we have to be proud that the Amiga platform commands high prices no atari, pc, or mac systems retain value like this.

[danbeaver]

Personally, if I'm investing in a 4000 it would have to have PCI.
Then I could get a decent RTG card, like a VooDoo3 or A Radeon 9200.
 
Otherwise, I'd look at a 3000 with an '040 or '060 processor and one of Jen's neat flicker fixers (for better graphics modes). Cheaper, still Zorro 3, more compact, and it just looks nicer.

You would add a Flicker Fixer to an A3000?  And more compact until you need CDROM access or a 3.5" Front Plate access?  If you want compact, then look into an A600.  Oh, no Mediator for a Plain-Jane A3000, so no Voodoo or Radeon.

[Fairdinkem]

The reason for these skyrocketing prices is HOARDERS. Thats right, guys out there (many on this board ) with multiple amigas fully loaded (that they dont even use!) with rare parts. Meanwhile, guys who really want rare parts to build an amiga again or to upgrade an old machine are pretty much screwed.

 The irony is these very same guys start threads crying about ebay prices. How laughable.

Having said all this, we have to be proud that the Amiga platform commands high prices no atari, pc, or mac systems retain value like this.

I could never justify paying such a price even if I really wanted this machine, the pricing of expansion cards and these "fully Loaded" machines is just ridiculous. I mean I get the fact they are classic hardware, becoming difficult to obtain. I like you think there are as you say more out there in the wild being hoarded and unused which has driven prices up to inflated and unrealistic prices.

Good for the seller not so good for the buyer.

[Lurch]

The reason for these skyrocketing prices is HOARDERS. Thats right, guys out there (many on this board ) with multiple amigas fully loaded (that they dont even use!) with rare parts. Meanwhile, guys who really want rare parts to build an amiga again or to upgrade an old machine are pretty much screwed.

 The irony is these very same guys start threads crying about ebay prices. How laughable.

Having said all this, we have to be proud that the Amiga platform commands high prices no atari, pc, or mac systems retain value like this.

I agree with this, in some cases I think I'm 10 years too late and missed out on the fair prices.

My dream machine is a fully decked out 4000D, not just to have it on display but to be able to use it. So I've aimed for a 1200 setup which is great, but if I mention 060 the price escalates far too high. So I'm very happy that Jen's is selling new hardware, although I do wish there were some new 060 boards about. Maybe then the prices will drop?

What the kicker is if I wanted to get into a fully loaded Atari I could pickup a rather nice system for $200NZD locally.

The mere mention of the word Amiga adds an extra $1000 to that price. The weird thing is it's only in small circles that the Amiga is a cool thing to be involved in.

If I mention my Amiga fetish to people outside of the retro circle i.e. 90% of the people I know they look at you in a very strange way. Even fellow computer geeks I know, so I keep it to myself.

Horders and people that camp on ebay auctions then re sell them on ebay at twice the price are what annoy me.

I've been outbid several times by a certain someone on ebay only to see them relist the item later on at a higher price.

:-)