I got the first episode of ren and stimpy converted to Amiga

[B00tDisk]

Remember, be careful when you drop the framerate of stuff recorded from VHS (if that's your source): VHS displays in fields per second but most animation is done at 8-10 frames per second.  Dropping the display framerate can lead to jerkier animation than you'd think...

[AmigaClassicRule]

Remember, be careful when you drop the framerate of stuff recorded from VHS (if that's your source): VHS displays in fields per second but most animation is done at 8-10 frames per second.  Dropping the display framerate can lead to jerkier animation than you'd think...

That is not my issue. My issue is getting the frame rate to synch with the audio when I do avi4hv. I am unable to get any other show converted for Amiga classic after I have done the first one. It is because if there are frame rate like 28.837 avi4hv turn it into 29 or 28. This little difference of 0.837 causes an error in conversion and there is a little obvious unsync between animation and audio. So I am wondering if there is away to resolve this in the windows side when I save the audio as .wav and the video as .avi and I combine them together with avi4hv that they are synched together and it continues with conversion and does not stop at 800 MB with an error.

That is my problem. Anyone who have faced the same problem but resolved it, I would love your help in this regard so I can continue my work.

Thanks in advance.

[kvasir]

Works great on my 1200T 060, will dump it over to the 030 8mb later and try it there tonight. Probably using something OTHER than a null-modem (have PCMCIA ethernet NIC & FTP client/server on both )

[AmigaClassicRule]

Works great on my 1200T 060, will dump it over to the 030 8mb later and try it there tonight. Probably using something OTHER than a null-modem (have PCMCIA ethernet NIC & FTP client/server on both )

Well I have gotten the second episode of ren and stimpy completed. I am going to be working on the third one soon. However, I do not have a place to host them up. I do not have a place where people can simply download them and run them on their classic Amiga, so far only I have them.

[amiman99]

To fix your audio / video sync problem, try to convert the video to 320x200 (or whatever you need) with 15/20fps with audio intact. I use "Any Video Converter" for that.
Then I strip/convert the audio with VirtuaDub to wav and then I convert the video to 15Bit RGB.
See if that works.
To see if your video is in sync with audio, open them in any player and compare times.

[AmigaClassicRule]

To fix your audio / video sync problem, try to convert the video to 320x200 (or whatever you need) with 15/20fps with audio intact. I use "Any Video Converter" for that.
Then I strip/convert the audio with VirtuaDub to wav and then I convert the video to 15Bit RGB.
See if that works.
To see if your video is in sync with audio, open them in any player and compare times.

The problem with forcing ftp to 15 or 20 fps (by the way the two shows I have gotten working in good speed with real classic Amiga, their ftps are higher than 20 fps, some of them 30 fps), is that in some cases it is completely out of synch between audio and animation. Whe nI use VirtuaDub it says in order to have fps synch with audio you need to use 24.998 or in some cases 23.782, depending on the actual video. So I enter these numbers in frame rate setting myself, I disable audio, save mp3, convert mp3 to 8 bit, save it as wav, set rgb to 15 bit, save as a new avi file, rename it as ren.avi and ren.wav, use avi4hv, it says do you want to use fps 24 (which is not 23.782 or 23.9998), I say yes...and continue from there.

Now I just wish the actual program avi4hv itself does use float instead of int when it comes to fps. However, I got two ren and stimpy working correctly so I am happy...I think (I may be wrong) got the hang of working around this...I am not so sure myself. I will do another one now...and if it works as I hoped then I will post an update here saying I have managed to get it working 100% and should easily be finishing off ren and stimpy series to move on to family guys, then american dad and whatever tv show I have (prison break, etc) before moving on to movies.

Then I will burn all my work on blue ray disc. However, I still have issue sharing it with you guys...maybe you guys could help me get in torrent so you guys could download it in torrent program (I use utorrent myself in Windows). I just do not know how to share it in p2p in torrent community. If someone can give me a tutorial it will be great.

But...I have another problem and that is the quality of the video and dithering issue...it is some what low end quality, I kind of want it to make it better quality than this....can someone give me tutorial in how to improve my work? I will not of course redo the previous work..what is done is done..but for future work I would love to do them better.

[amiman99]

Dont use dithering, it makes things worse. Try to use source file with a least "blocking" artifacts.
For me, its nice to watch movies/shows on Amiga, but is not very practical, the quality is not there, but is fun and challenging making it work.
One time, I'll try to see if it works on my CDTV at 7MHz!

[AmigaClassicRule]

Dont use dithering, it makes things worse. Try to use source file with a least "blocking" artifacts.
For me, its nice to watch movies/shows on Amiga, but is not very practical, the quality is not there, but is fun and challenging making it work.
One time, I'll try to see if it works on my CDTV at 7MHz!

In VirtualDub under filter what I need to add to remove the horrible dithering and give the blocking artifacts?

[MelbourneBen]

I have done one show of ren and stimpy converted to run on classic Amiga AGA. It should theoretically run at frame rate of 20 per second on an Amiga 1200/4000 030+ but I have not found my Amiga classic yet to try it out. Anyone is interested in trying the show for me on their Amiga classic and returning me back some feedback?

The size of the file is 795 MB in size. I need the following feedback about my work:

1) Quality of the video
2) Quality of the sound
3) Speed of the animation

there was an error at the end of the conversion of to hv at the LAST LAST LAST end, so the last 4 seconds was not completed. But hopefully for the rest of them it should not be the case...this is after all my first attempt. Personally I am proud of my work and I finally can watch one episode of ren and stimpy on my A1200 when I find her between all these boxes.

I could check for the audio on my WinUAE but I cannot because my PC's internal sound CHIP died and no sound output is coming from my PC. IN a month or so, I should order a USB sound card to resolve this problem.

If anyone is interested please send me their FTP client info so I can upload it, after all it is 700+ MB in size.

Thanks for your input Hopefully if you guys are happy I should be able to do all the ren and stimpy tv show converted for the classic Amiga, then do all duckman episode, then do all family guy and american dad. When I am done with all of these shows I will work on my movies at my HD and start working on the tv show prison break and so forth...but before I even start doing this tedious work...I need your input on this file that I have done. Anyone have an FTP client where I can upload this will be great.

Good work, I'll give this a try when I recieve my new PCMCIA network card as transferring the file over serial from a PC will take way to long. Will be interesting to see the performance on a stock A1200 with 4MB fast.

[amiman99]

In VirtualDub under filter what I need to add to remove the horrible dithering and give the blocking artifacts?

I'm working on it, I have like over 200 plug ins for Virtualdub.
Looks like when converting from 24bits to 16bits there is a visible color reduction. I'm looking right now to see which filter is best for our purpose.It's been awhile since I converted videos to HV.

[AmigaClassicRule]

I'm working on it, I have like over 200 plug ins for Virtualdub.
Looks like when converting from 24bits to 16bits there is a visible color reduction. I'm looking right now to see which filter is best for our purpose.It's been awhile since I converted videos to HV.

Thank you so much for your help!! I want to be able to make sure the quality of my movie converted to be of high quality. I am more than excited to start converting the other stuff in good quality...I need to start buying 50 GB blue ray disc as it will drain hugely from my HD or better yet get an external 1 TB HD instead and store everything in there .
 
 
Weeeeeeeeee I am so excited..finally Amiga classic users can enjoy movies heheheheh

[DamageX]

Now I just wish the actual program avi4hv itself does use float instead of int when it comes to fps.

Now that you mention it, that is pretty dumb. Oops!

[AmigaClassicRule]

Now that you mention it, that is pretty dumb. Oops!

Are you the author of the program?

[Bamiga2002]

I'm feeling your enthusiasm!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8n-PDVYgu4

[amiman99]

Ok, I think I found something.
Use this filter called "Error diffusion" found here: http://whitewing.co.uk/vdub_errdiff.html
I was pretty happy with the output with a cartoon I had on my HD, the movie looked like a HAM animation considering the limitations on HAM, and much better then the dithering option included in HV converter.
I also use directshow plugin, so you can open any file, if you have correct codecs installed on your PC: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/286901-VirtualDub-Now-Has-a-Directshow-Driver-Plugin

The HV files are quite big 200MB for 4 min video, but is fun making it.

[AmigaClassicRule]

Ok, I think I found something.
Use this filter called "Error diffusion" found here: http://whitewing.co.uk/vdub_errdiff.html
I was pretty happy with the output with a cartoon I had on my HD, the movie looked like a HAM animation considering the limitations on HAM, and much better then the dithering option included in HV converter.
I also use directshow plugin, so you can open any file, if you have correct codecs installed on your PC: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/286901-VirtualDub-Now-Has-a-Directshow-Driver-Plugin
 
The HV files are quite big 200MB for 4 min video, but is fun making it.

Thank you so much for your help and providing me links as well
 
I am curious you said for 4 minutes it would become 200 MB does that mean if the movie is 60 minutes long it will become 12 GB? So if I have a movie that is 2 hours long it will become 24 GB? So in away, this process will turn a normal DVD movie as a blue ray movie for Amiga (but it is not) in terms of size?
 
I am going to use your method now for my third ren and stimpy and I am hoping the quality will be improving dramatically. I also have laurel and hardy tv show (black and quite) but the sound is not stereo quality so for those movies I will make the sound mono to shrink the size of the file a little bit. That means classic Amiga users get to enjoy seeing their power LED dimmed or turned off for certain shows/movies hehe.
 
Concerning the size of the movie I am ok with that but the person who is going to download them from me have to be willing to download large files to watch those movies or tv shows in their Amiga.