For sale : Subway clockport USB

[ChaosLord]

Anyone selling a Subway USB?

Get an Algor or a Deneb.  They don't bog down your cpu and are fast and system friendly.

[AmigaClassicRule]

Get an Algor or a Deneb.  They don't bog down your cpu and are fast and system friendly.

Hehe, that is for Amiga 4000 right? So only Amiga 1200 have this issue?

[ChaosLord]

I went to Amigakit to read up on Algor and Deneb and got this msg:

There is no product that matches the search criteria.


I just can't win. :confused:     :huh:   :cry:

[Lurch]

Get an Algor or a Deneb.  They don't bog down your cpu and are fast and system friendly.

None of those options work with a clockport, unless theres an adapter and it fits in a wedge :-)

[Cosmos Amiga]

Of course, the Amiga is a lot easier to code for, since there are tools like AMOS, Gamesmith (C/ASM), Amiblitz, AmigaE, TADS, Storm-C and the likes, whearas C64 developers are basically restricted to ASM and BASIC* (there are some nice and easy tools like SEUCK or Game Creator, but none can be really used for a commercial quality title. Although a bunch of people tried just that in the past and ended up selling not quite a lot of copies)

Amiga Classic need absolutly a GOOD compiler C/C++, bug free and able to create one exe with auto CPU (000 to 060) detection into...

[Lurch]

If there is a USB option I'd swap my indi ECS for it :-)

[ChaosLord]

Amiga Classic need absolutly a GOOD compiler C/C++, bug free

SASC is a great C compiler.  So is DICE.

No C++ but C++ suxx0rz the life out of ur CPU.  C++ = bloatware.

If u want C++ "stuff" just use E.  E is massively better.

If you want C then just use SASC or DICE.  SASC Source Level Debugger is lightyears ahead of GCC or VBCC.

and able to create one exe with auto CPU (000 to 060) detection into...

 There is no need to detect cpu by the C compiler.  What would it do?  Have 10 different exes all compiled into 1 like on Windoze?  Nobody on Amiga wants 5MB exe size for a simple cli command.  

No bloatware on Amiga!

[danbeaver]

In response to my question, "Anybody selling a Subway USB?" The gentle man or gentle woman said,

Get an Algor or a Deneb.  They don't bog down your cpu and are fast and system friendly.

Obviously forgetting that this thread is in the Marketplace section because Cosmos has a Subway USB for sale. Lets not lose sight of the forest for the insane ravings of a lunatic madman.

[Akiko]

I went to Amigakit to read up on Algor and Deneb and got this msg:

There is no product that matches the search criteria.


I just can't win. :confused:     :huh:   :cry:

Here ya go..  Happy Christmas

https://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=795

[magnetic]

This is only the case with the Highway/Subway controller chips -- and only for keyboards/mice or other devices that need interrupt transfers. With the Algor and Deneb cards, there's no such drawback -- the more sophisticated controller chips take care of the protocol overhead with no host side interaction.

Platon
Thanks for posting, nice to see you still read this board. Good info on the various usb options.
What confuses me is that usb products is one product that is actually commercially viable. There is a worldwide demand for usb hardware for the classic platform. Someone mentioned Thyaciline, is that board being manufactured again?

The Deneb seems like some miracle board for classics as well and is no longer made. Will there ever be a comparable product for amigas?  btw "Deneb" interesting and msytical name. Its starting to dawn on me there is a lot of symbology and ancient world iconagraphy in the amiga world.  Your avatar has esotreric meaning as well. Or am I just up too late?

[ChaosLord]

Here ya go..  Happy Christmas

https://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=795

Thanks Akiko!

Seems like it won't work on my A1200.  This card makes me wish I had not given away my A4000.  When I gave it away I could not think of a single card I would ever want to plug into a slot.  I should have just held onto it a few more years.  Oh well....

I could plug it into my A3000 but I would have to upgrade my buster chip and maybe some other chips.  And I would have to ship my A3000 off to have it done.  Would end up costing quite a bit of $$$.  I will think carefully if I should do it.

I never knew anything about the Deneb or the Algor card until right now and I still know nothing of Algor.

[Bamiga2002]

Just to let you know that not all WHD games work with USB stack. For example Addams Family works, but Batman the Movie does not.

[utri007]

Seems that there will be new batch of thylacine usb card. Though this is happy thing only for big box amiga users. Price will be 91€

[ChaosLord]

Is Thylacine as good as Deneb?

[ChaosLord]

Just to let you know that not all WHD games work with USB stack. For example Addams Family works, but Batman the Movie does not.

What is the technical reason why Batman the Movie won't work with a USB stack enabled?

And how did Addams Family start to work but not Batman?

[Bamiga2002]

I really don't know. Maybe because Batman WHD-slave is older and lacks some functionality that is in Addams Family(?).
Maybe someone who know about WHDLoad and slave coding could shed some light.

edit: bah, Batman slave is infact newer, but still could lack something that prevents USB stack usage at the same time...