Super Keyboard Steal!!!

[som99]

I love the QPAD MK-80 a lot!

I got this one.


And here is for all you natively English speaking guys

[save2600]

Sorry, just can't get excited about black keyboards at all. Especially if we're talking about using them with Amigas. Strange Rosewill doesn't offer a beige model. Only thing I see of theirs that's beige is a PS2/USB adapter.

[ChaosLord]

If that is your only beef, then you obviously haven't typed on  one

use a ps2 to usb adapter.

No such adapter exists.

Topre rigged their keyboard to never work on a PS/2 computer such as an Amiga.

I would have typed on 3 Topres if Topre wasn't run by a bunch psychos who banish PS/2 devices from working with their keyboards.

Topres keyboards are junk.

Topre switches might be good, bad or garbage, depending on who you ask.  But Topre keyboards are vandalized, sabotaged junk.

[ChaosLord]

This:  I have replaced about 1/2 of the keycaps and 2 spacebars.  The spacebar is elmers glued down.  They are absolute crap caps.  

I am trying to understand what was wrong with the Leopold keycaps?

As for the spacebar, are you saying the Leopold spacebar was glued onto the switch so it could not be removed?

Please give me infos.

Which specific model of Leopold are we talking about?

The colored caps are from WASD and they are awesome.  Should have bought WASD to start with.

I should have bought a WASD too.  I would have bought one its just that they banished the   A from their OS keys option so I skipped right over them and then ended up buying a $70.00 Rosewill.   If I was going to pay that much then I should have just went ahead and paid $120.00 (or whatever) to get a WASD keyboard with an idiotic blank OS key.

Anyway I ordered some keycaps from WASD to try out.  I will see how they are.

[ChaosLord]

When I see features like: "The Rosewill RK-9000RE incorporates high quality braided cable and gold plated USB and PS/2 connector. These connectors ensure low latency." I have to wonder what they are smoking...

The cable is braided.  But it is complete crap.  Its the worst USB cable of all time.

Like I said: All modern keyboards are sabotaged.  Its just a question of what the sabotage is.

[ChaosLord]

My preference for keyboards is the IBM Model M keyboards.

The IBM Model M does not have Amiga keys so its useless for serious keyboard work.

The purpose of a keyboard is generate keycodes.
IBM Model M, lacking 2 modifier keys, cannot generate thousands of keycodes that a normal keyboard can.

Fully springed, tactile, and they do make some noise.
I like the sound produced. Totally clicky.
As for cube neighbors, feh. There's nothing in my contract that says I can't use one. ha!

Yes the switches are groovy.  Ok they take way to much force to activate and they are super loud.  But other than that they are cool.

I don't understand why they don't make a lower force version.  They have had over 25 years to figure out how to put a different spring in their switch.

I almost bought one once but they are just completely useless on the Amiga.  No shortcuts work and you can't flip screens with Amiga M/N.

[ChaosLord]

@SOM99

About your QPAD:

Does your Right Amiga key work?

Does the Help key work?

What kind of switches are in your QPAD?

[ChaosLord]

Sorry, just can't get excited about black keyboards at all. Especially if we're talking about using them with Amigas.

If u buy keyboards based on color then u r doing it wrong.

Health comes first.  Color last.

 Strange Rosewill doesn't offer a beige model.

All the world's keyboards are sabotaged ripoffs and u r worried about color. :roflmao:

[som99]

@SOM99

About your QPAD:

Does your Right Amiga key work?

Does the Help key work?

What kind of switches are in your QPAD?

I have never tried it on a Amiga :/ So can't say, they only make keyboards with Cherry MX Red and Cherry MX Blue switches.

Nice quality on the keyboards (Swedish company so ill buy more from them to support them) and all their keyboards have Full N-Key roll over, tho the MK-85 have over USB but they supplie a PS/2 adapter with it at least, but I prefer the ones with onnly PS/2.

[persia]

what about this one?

XArmor U9W 2.4 GHz RF wireless mechanical keyboard Cherry MX Brown

It still perserve the legacy wired connection if you are low on battery power....

[TheBilgeRat]

I am trying to understand what was wrong with the Leopold keycaps?

As for the spacebar, are you saying the Leopold spacebar was glued onto the switch so it could not be removed?

I had to glue the spacebar down as the stems stretch/crack with use.

If you look at the picture, the cap that is out has no stem - they crack and break.  That cap lasted maybe 2-3 months of typical use.  One after the other started breaking out of the blue.

Also, the LEDs don't work anymore either.  Its a Leo FC200.

[barney]

Take a good look at the reviews before you buy that keyboard.  It appears to have a defective mini USB connector that has broken off for several people.  If you are thinking about buying a mechanical keyboard, you should look into Omnikey.  The omnikey is one of the nices keyboards ever made and is 100% Amiga compatible via the dip switches under the trapdoor.

[TheBilgeRat]

If you are serious about getting a mechy keyboard, take some time - check out keyboardauthority, or geekhack, and spend some time reading the reviews.

For those buckling spring aficionados out there, you can still buy them.  

http://www.pckeyboard.com/

Unicomp makes the original designs on the original equipment, although the plastic quality is not the original .  Bonus - they will do custom key layout as well (for those amiga key ppl).  Bonus bonus - they don't cost 100+ dollars off ebay and they come with either a PS2 or USB cable.

[ChaosLord]

Take a good look at the reviews before you buy that keyboard.  It appears to have a defective mini USB connector that has broken off for several people.

I know about the idiotic USB port.  They supposedly fixed it in 2012.  I have a 2012 Rosewill and I have used it continuously for 16 days and it hasn't broken yet. :rofl:

Another guy told me its fixed in his 2012 version.  That's all I know.

For $55.00 I figured it was worth the risk.

I looked at a gazillion different keyboards that were all sabotaged just as bad or worse.  WASD keyboards are better quality (but not perfect) but 2x the price.

[ChaosLord]

If you are thinking about buying a mechanical keyboard, you should look into Omnikey.  The omnikey is one of the nices keyboards ever made and is 100% Amiga compatible via the dip switches under the trapdoor.

The trouble with Omnikey keyboards is you have to apply a huge amount of force on each key to get it to register: nearly 70g

Cherry Red only requires 45g

There is no reason to place extra force on your tendons, it just speeds up getting tendonitis or Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

Omnikey only gives you 3.5mm before you crash.
Cherry Red gives you 4mm before you crash.

A proper keyboard would give you 8-12mm before crashing.

A person needs more travel, not less.  All those impacts are very bad for your body.

[ChaosLord]

Bonus - they will do custom key layout as well (for those amiga key ppl).  

What does "custom key layout" mean?  Your Amiga keys have Amiga symbol on them?

Back in 2003 I looked into buying buckling spring keyboard but I couldn't find any that had Amiga keys.  The Amiga keys did not exist.  There was just a hole there.  Maybe I didn't look long enough or something.  But anwayz the trouble with Buckling springs is just they take huge amount of force: 70-90g and are super duper noisy.  If u have a wife u will be dead within 30 days :lol: