AmigaOne is out of my budget league

[Blinx123]

@spirantho

Thanks for the input.

Yea. I'll most likely go with a SAM first.
I still got high hopes that, some day, someone will port AmigaOS 4.1 to the PowerMac G5, since this is the next piece of hardware I'll be getting (hopefully, the MorphOS bounty has been finished by someone by then).

[Tripitaka]

Well, no. And I don't miss it.Quite the contrary: I have a very good and pretty matured alternative amigaish OS for that machine that runs all my old 68k legacy software OS-natively as well as quite some new software. I think it's just cool. But I understand that there are some ppl who prefer OS4 - but those have to deal with the limited hardware offers. Complaining isn't leading forward though. Deal with it or look for alternatives.

I've got no problem with that, choice is what it's all about. Are you using MorphOS or AROS btw? Just asking out of curiosity.

[Tripitaka]

@spirantho

I still got high hopes that, some day, someone will port AmigaOS 4.1 to the PowerMac G5, since this is the next piece of hardware I'll be getting.

I still got high hopes that I'll see an OS4 netbook one day, some news from Hyperion on that front would be nice.

[danbeaver]

@zylesea

Exactly, there is no compelling reason to go to OS4.1, all the Amiga software I run is classic which is happy in a classic machine or Amiga Forever (which uses the same emulator for classic that OS4.1 does).  Most of the new 4.1 apps are ports of Linux open source software.  So what do I need the Apple chip in the X1000 for?

I can program an XMOS microprocessor better using a USD99 board on a PC than I can on the X1000.  

Now what might be interesting is to pick up the abandoned PearPC code and try to make an emulator for 4.1, but I just don't have the programming skills for that....

There is no compelling reason for you to go to OS 4.1, but you can't speak for others. It is a great OS in the Amiga tradition. And if I enjoy it on my Classic and would love to run it on an x1000, then that is my prerogative. There are many type of Amiga users out there and let us decide what we want.

[jay]

Think I'l buy two haha

[itix]

Perhaps you should re-read my posts as I have no idea whatsoever as to the reason why you would ask me such a question. But, I'll still answer it anyway.

No, of course not, Sam's and X1000's do that.

In the days of the £1800 486 I bought an Amiga 1200 (I still have the very same A1200 now) and my 486 is long gone. My whole point in the first place was yes, it is very expensive, however, years ago I was willing to pay that sort of cash for a 486 because it did something I desired. Nowadays the X1000 costs £1800 to do something I desire. What's the difference? The fact that now I can buy a cheap PC is irrelevant, they can't run OS4. So to sum up:

Past: 486 runs DOOM and costs £1800, A1200 costs £300 and does not: I bought both because I had the cash.

Now: X1000 runs OS4 and costs £1800, PC costs £300 and does not: I got the PC because I don't have the cash but when I do I'll gladly buy an X1000 too (in the meantime I've still got 5 classic Amigas to play with anyway).

Lets see... your £300 PC can still run DOOM and your £300 Amiga is not less useful than it was 20 years ago... right? ;-)

(I am just pulling your leg.)

[zylesea]

@Blinx123

AmigaOS 4 is my favourite platform for coding by far. The advances made to the API since 3.x are very useful, and really help. They've done some very good work under the hood that the average user doesn't see, but as a developer I definitely see.

But that's also true for AROS or MorphOS. All these systems go far beyond 3.1. I don't say OS4 is a particular bad choice, but it isn't the only choice. There are actauilly alternatives. The Amiga (in the sense of 68k Amiga by Commodore) heritage consists of OS4, MorphOS and AROS.

 I've also coded for Windows (gurrrrgggghhhh) and Android (not too bad, but a bit idiosyncratic at times - and you have to use Java). Not used iOS.

When I coded or Windows I also somehow thought it was a pain, but then again support is just brilliant. If you have a question or look for code snippets it always easy to get help. That's quite attractive, especially for the occasional programmer that I am.

[zylesea]

I've got no problem with that, choice is what it's all about. Are you using MorphOS or AROS btw? Just asking out of curiosity.

I use MorphOS (Mac mini, Powerbook and Efika). A good share of a particular OS preference is probably what you are used to. The "NG" systems aren't really new today and many of us chose a system long ago. I am using MorphOS for more than ten years now - soon it wil surpass my Amiga 68k user time (main system from 1989-2002).

[Fats]

To hell with this I am runnig in circles here, its cheaper to use my AMD and Amikit.

Who is stopping you ?
Don't forget to enjoy your hobbies, I am.

Staf.

[Kesa]

Hobby? :mad:

Amiga's rock my universe!  

[spirantho]

But that's also true for AROS or MorphOS. All these systems go far beyond 3.1. I don't say OS4 is a particular bad choice, but it isn't the only choice. There are actauilly alternatives. The Amiga (in the sense of 68k Amiga by Commodore) heritage consists of OS4, MorphOS and AROS.

When I coded last for AROS and MorphOS, I did find things were missing that I took for granted in OS4 - and it made me realise how much OS4 had improved on things.

However, I have a lot more experience with OS4, and I didn't have the time to look into other options for MorphOS and AROS. Hence my own experience isn't a fair judgement. Therefore I say that OS4 is an improved OS only in comparison to OS3, not to AROS or MOS. In other words, I'm not trying to "one-up" against MOS and AROS, I'm just commenting on what I know better, which in this case is AmigaOS 4.

I think that's clear now?