AmigaOne is out of my budget league

[lassie]

A3000T is sexy, no objection there. Go for it. :biglaugh:

Yes but i will have to save up for it first

[Duce]

Yes, that's the price.  Yes, it's high - excessively so if you ask me.  

That being said, there's a number of cheaper options if you are interested in new OS4 hardware.  SAM 460 boards are about 600 euros or so, the 440 boards cheaper yet.

[spirantho]

The reason the price is so high is because it costs so much to make.
The X1000 was designed from the start to be the fastest new PowerPC hardware for AmigaOS, and that meant using very expensive components. like the pa6t. This was deliberate because the Sams already covered the low and mid range of the hardware range.
Trust me, they're not getting rich off this.
Luckily it's been selling better than expected.

[slayer]

Luckily it's been selling better than expected.

:banana:

[Digiman]

Yes maybe it is because i have always wanted an Amiga 3000T. Some say Commodore was at there prime when they released it, and it looks quite nice too, and there are not to many of them around. So it is a collector item.

The case design department certainly wasn't on top form that year lol

That is easily the ugliest Amiga EVER made, it makes even the melted Commodore 128 looking Amiga 500 almost nice to look at Looks like a rubbish 80386 tower PCm the Commodore 486 looks more Amiga than the Amiga 3000T does. Compared to the gorgeous A3000 desktop you have to ask WTF happened to classy elegant design?

The price for the AmigaONE X1000 is a product of using old technology at it's fastest speed. The way things are going there will be seriously faster mobile phone/tablet CPUs costing pennies not too far off.

The only choice for X1000 was the Xenon CPU from IBM, everything else was going to cost way too much. Luckily the SAM 460 @ 1000 GBP is just as overpriced on £/mhz

[lassie]

Actually I am wearing glasses. But that font was not intentionally, it is result of copying and pasting price from XE currency converter website that did affect the font. However, let us return back to topic in hands.

It was only meant to be a joke, that maybe you had lost your glasses. I use glasses myself.

What Amigas do you have now?

[spirantho]

The only choice for X1000 was the Xenon CPU from IBM, everything else was going to cost way too much.

The Xenon isn't a desktop CPU - it lacks some important features like branch prediction.

[Tripitaka]

Now I think about it my first 486 cost about £1800 and the printer that came with it was £500. I didn't mind at the time, it was a Blue Lightning and it played DOOM faster than anything my mates had.

I guess it's all relative. Would I pay £1800 for an X1000? Yup, if I had it. Is the price of an 040  or 060 board any better for £s per MHz? Nope, it's even worse, a lot worse.

[Digiman]

The Xenon isn't a desktop CPU - it lacks some important features like branch prediction.

Still codes up games faster than an any i5 setup money can buy or even Core2Duo 64bit so for pushing a mouse pointer around a screen full of icons it's fine IMO. If the 360 can stream video and run IE 9 it is good enough to run OS4 on for sure, hardly a cutting edge OS any more.

[Digiman]

Now I think about it my first 486 cost about £1800 and the printer that came with it was £500. I didn't mind at the time, it was a Blue Lightning and it played DOOM faster than anything my mates had.

I guess it's all relative. Would I pay £1800 for an X1000? Yup, if I had it. Is the price of an 040  or 060 board any better for £s per MHz? Nope, it's even worse, a lot worse.

Yes but in the days of £18000 486/P1s there was no £399 386 with 20" monitor etc etc so the comparison doesn't make sense today when you essentially have disposable PCs at £249 or less when on sale.

[Tripitaka]

The case design department certainly wasn't on top form that year lol

That is easily the ugliest Amiga EVER made, it makes even the melted Commodore 128 looking Amiga 500 almost nice to look at Looks like a rubbish 80386 tower PCm the Commodore 486 looks more Amiga than the Amiga 3000T does. Compared to the gorgeous A3000 desktop you have to ask WTF happened to classy elegant design?

You do realize that lots (and I do mean lots) of Amigoids love that case design don't you?
Just watch out for cultists in boing ball robes, they'll be after you.

For the record, I never liked the case design either. The 4000T on the other hand was rather sexy.

[Tripitaka]

Yes but in the days of £18000 486/P1s there was no £399 386 with 20" monitor etc etc so the comparison doesn't make sense today when you essentially have disposable PCs at £249 or less when on sale.

But they don't run OS4!

[spirantho]

Still codes up games faster than an any i5 setup money can buy or even Core2Duo 64bit so for pushing a mouse pointer around a screen full of icons it's fine IMO. If the 360 can stream video and run IE 9 it is good enough to run OS4 on for sure, hardly a cutting edge OS any more.

Yes, it can run games faster than a Core2Duo, because that's what it's designed for. Equally, a Core2Duo running an OS would run rings round the Xenon, because that's what it in turn is designed for.

Console CPUs are designed for two things only - Gaming and Video. Yes, they can run other stuff, but as anyone who ran Linux on a PS3 will say, you don't get anywhere near the speed you'd get with a similarly clocked desktop processor.

If it was possible to run a Xenon instead of a very expensive PA6T, I'm fairly sure they'd have taken it. They're not stupid, and they're not a charity trying to lose money either.

[dammy]

AmigaOne X1000 is sold for 1,846.78 GBP or 2,269.62 EUR in AmigaKit. Isn't this a little bit too high for a computer?

Does this apply again to the very little market toward it kinda thing? I mean it cost $2973.05 US. With that price I can get the top of a line latest up to date gaming laptop!!

Just get the gaming laptop and dual boot AROS.  Problem solved and you got the best bang for your buck.

[itix]

But they don't run OS4!

And your £1800 486 does?

[Ral-Clan]

I heard that Trevor is actually absorbing he some of the cost of each AmigaOne X1000 just because he wants the computer to be a reality - so it's a subsidy for the user at Trevor's expense.  Not to say it's not an expensive computer, but the expense if probaby justified with the amount of R&D and the small numbers they can potentially sell at any price point.

I coudn't ever justify a computer that expensive, but it's not fair to think that Aeon is gouging the customer.

Trevor said something about using some different components in the next version that will reduce the cost.