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new piece of Pi
« on: November 30, 2012, 07:23:35 PM »
I just received an early Christmas present - a new Raspberry Pi. Now to see just what I can get into....
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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2012, 07:37:15 PM »
I'm giving RiscOS a try on mine. Interesting stuff...
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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2012, 10:59:27 PM »
There are many Amiga games converted back in the day to Risc OS.
Zool (32bit version) works natively on Risc OS Pi, among others. Not compatible games are being fixed. See full list here:

http://www.acornarcade.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11999&page=1#121577
!!!! Update to latest development Risc OS ROM. The Risc OS ROM that comes with the default distro is outdated and has keyboard issues that will lock up the games.
Latest ROM can be downloaded at the developers site here:

https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/other-zipfiles

NOTE: Risc OS ROM is open source and free. Risc OS scene is not plagued by bad born bastards who steal money from old OSes, like the sad Amiga scene.

Risc OS also has cheap and solid hardware with a VERY GOOD price/feature ratio, not like the lame OS4/MOS hardware situation.
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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 01:25:26 AM »
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I just received an early Christmas present - a new Raspberry Pi. Now to see just what I can get into....


You can try out my Amiga Boing ball or OpenVG YouTube client programs :)
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 03:05:09 AM »
What I wonder is whether boards such as the Raspberry Pi couldn't be used to interface with Amigas in some way through the GIO (or other method with other boards) to act like a general add on device to supply network, USB, USB floppy access, print server, etc. I've heard that the external connection mechanism is relatively easy to program on the Pi. Is that correct? Nevertheless, it would be a nice idea. :-) I've got to get one!
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 04:59:04 AM »
You got yours from RS components? I ordered from them for 8-ish months ago, got mine yesterday and a 512MB RAM version as a "sorry you had to wait" present, the others I ordered from other places and got in less then a week or so, so no more ordering from RS components for me, but hey got the 512MB version now also ^^
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2012, 07:55:19 AM »
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What I wonder is whether boards such as the Raspberry Pi couldn't be used to interface with Amigas in some way through the GIO (or other method with other boards) to act like a general add on device to supply network, USB, USB floppy access, print server, etc. I've heard that the external connection mechanism is relatively easy to program on the Pi. Is that correct? Nevertheless, it would be a nice idea. :-) I've got to get one!
The biggest issue with this idea is that the Pi uses 3.3Volt IO and the Amiga uses 5V IO... You would need a bunch of level shifters between the two devices... Also once you have connected the Pi, there really wouldn't be any need for the Amiga :) ;)

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2012, 08:52:46 AM »
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There are many Amiga games converted back in the day to Risc OS.
Zool (32bit version) works natively on Risc OS Pi, among others. Not compatible games are being fixed. See full list here:

http://www.acornarcade.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11999&page=1#121577
!!!! Update to latest development Risc OS ROM. The Risc OS ROM that comes with the default distro is outdated and has keyboard issues that will lock up the games.
Latest ROM can be downloaded at the developers site here:

https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/other-zipfiles

NOTE: Risc OS ROM is open source and free. Risc OS scene is not plagued by bad born bastards who steal money from old OSes, like the sad Amiga scene.

Risc OS also has cheap and solid hardware with a VERY GOOD price/feature ratio, not like the lame OS4/MOS hardware situation.
This is very interesting for me - I have a Raspberry Pi too and  had basically given up on it because the Linux OS included with it is not my cup of tea to be honest. I was even planning to give away the Pi as a Xmas present this year!
 
The Risc OS build for Raspberry Pi you mention sounds very interesting and I have decided now to keep the Pi a bit longer to try it out! I have never used RiscOS before! I have ordered (donated) to get my SD Card with RiscOS pre-installed and look forward to trying it out soon!
 
Thanks for showing me something that makes it worth keeping the Pi for! :-)
 
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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2012, 10:06:06 AM »
Why not run Aros on the pi there is a version for it...

http://www.aros-broadway.de/downloads/index.html
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2012, 11:30:09 AM »
No, there is a Linux-hosted version of AROS on the Pi. Lame, very lame, as it runs on WORST POSSIBLE scenario: the Xorg nightmare, the biggest piece of **** I've ever met for a graphical GUI. A massive resource hog, unaccelerated on the Pi.

So no AROS on the Pi. Forget about getting anything usable from this hosted thing.

Risc OS is a way better OS anyway.
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2012, 01:40:06 PM »
The biggest issue with this idea is that the Pi uses 3.3Volt IO and the Amiga uses 5V IO... You would need a bunch of level shifters between the two devices... Also once you have connected the Pi, there really wouldn't be any need for the Amiga

If the amiga can use a powerpc accelerator, I don't see why it couldn't use the arm processor on the pi as an accelerator.

It would be tricky, but an interesting project. Better yet, 4 pi's networked
to the amiga with access to all cpus. All jammed inside an amiga 600.

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2012, 01:58:38 PM »
What do you expect on that hardware?. Cray performance?. You are just bashing for the sake of it. The pi is ideal for a hobby machine, not for a day to day work environment, period.

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No, there is a Linux-hosted version of AROS on the Pi. Lame, very lame, as it runs on WORST POSSIBLE scenario: the Xorg nightmare, the biggest piece of **** I've ever met for a graphical GUI. A massive resource hog, unaccelerated on the Pi.

So no AROS on the Pi. Forget about getting anything usable from this hosted thing.

Risc OS is a way better OS anyway.
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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2012, 02:15:25 PM »
@gaula92

sorry but AROS hosted is faster than normal linux desktop... except... well except on the Pi.

Broadway X is very enjoyable on an Efika MX, where it was made on. Accidentally it works "somehow.." on a Pi too... now in this case trying it on a Pi make it look like crap... but hey.. use it on an Efika and it is worlds ahead of any distro out there in snappiness.  

I tried to make people doing a lot less hype around the "upcoming" Pi.. Just on the paper it is electronical waste. And don't tell me it is cheap.. there where and still exist much more pleasant ARM devices available ot alibaba and co.

Buy an Efika or anything with an A8 or better ARM CPU.
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2012, 03:19:32 PM »
I think its an awful lot of fun for 35.00$

Has so many uses and people are already creating lots of great stuff for it.
Its a great platform for many hobby things, thats why its so popular.

Media centers, game machines, its fun seeing what everyone is doing with them,
kinda like back in the day when people did more than surf the internet and browse facebook with their appliance computers.

I like to see people be creative with computers. We need more of that.
 

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Re: new piece of Pi
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2012, 04:12:32 PM »
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What do you expect on that hardware?. Cray performance?. You are just bashing for the sake of it. The pi is ideal for a hobby machine, not for a day to day work environment, period.


Wrong. Try a real desktop OS on it (stock Linux kernel + Xorg is pure bloatware, and this is coming from a daily Linux user) like Risc OS and you will see it IS viable as a day to day work enviroment. There is a lot of  great productivity software on Risc OS wich FLIES on the Pi.

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sorry but AROS hosted is faster than normal linux desktop... except... well except on the Pi.


With accelerated Xorg (ie hardware scaling and blitting) it may be. But I hope Xorg NEVER gets accelerated on the Pi and we finally get Wayland instead. X is the problem: the Rpi is a perfectly capable machine.