I am sorry to say I have lost my Amiga mo-jo

[browny]

Sound familiar.:crazy:
Got an A1200 a few months ago, just for fun to play some of my old games.
The psu of my old a500 was broke so the 1200 was an easy replacement.
Well, that was three months ago, in the mean time my amiga  1200 has a new MB, Floppy drive, HDD and an brand new aca1232 accelerator card.:crazy:
Still want a flickerfixer, cdrom drive and a pcmcia networkcard.
with other words, i'm hooked up with the amiga, i love it.

Yeah once an Amigan.....@marcel got one of the ACA1232s man they are the dogs.
Thats whats great about our miggys they were designed future proof !

[Duce]

I lost interest in the legacy Amiga systems when I realized it would cost me damned near 2x *now* to rebuild my old fave A4000 compared to when I had it in the mid 90's.  The prices are just extortionate and old hardware is not getting any more reliable.  I sunk about 1000e into a PPC A1200 with a BVision only to find out it was a jumbled together crashfest trainwreck.  Damned near unusable really, a pile of wires draped over each other, running a cobbled together OS full of crappy patches and apps pulled from shareware and PD (3.9).  Not a fan of 3.9, heh.

Switched to a Mini ITX socket 775 based PC that boots directly into WB 3.1 and runs faster than my fastest real Amiga ever ran, quiet as a churchmouse.  The size of a kleenex box.

[Everblue]

What about Amiga NG? What's the situation with Amiga OS4.1? I would love to get a machine to run OS4.1 but am I correct when saying that development is very, very slow, if at all?

[Duce]

I am very happy with my SAM 440/OS 4 machine, tbh.  I've been coding on it lately (concerting old 68k software to native PPC) and it's a real treat to develop for.

As far as being slow developmentally, there's been 5 update packs in the 4 years I've owned it.  None being revolutionary really, just fixes and evolutionary.  Legacy/emulation got a bit shot in the arm a few updates ago, as the OS now comes with fairly seamless 68k emulation and it comes with ROM's.

Main problem with OS4 machines is the high cost of entry.  MOS is the clear winner when it comes to "bang for your buck" with the NG platforms.

[Marcel21674]

I lost interest in the legacy Amiga systems when I realized it would cost me damned near 2x *now* to rebuild my old fave A4000 compared to when I had it in the mid 90's.  The prices are just extortionate and old hardware is not getting any more reliable.  I sunk about 1000e into a PPC A1200 with a BVision only to find out it was a jumbled together crashfest trainwreck.  Damned near unusable really, a pile of wires draped over each other, running a cobbled together OS full of crappy patches and apps pulled from shareware and PD (3.9).  Not a fan of 3.9, heh.

Switched to a Mini ITX socket 775 based PC that boots directly into WB 3.1 and runs faster than my fastest real Amiga ever ran, quiet as a churchmouse.  The size of a kleenex box.

When you have a hobby, where old stuff is involved, you know spare parts will become expensive.  Especially when it's "very" popular old stuff.
It's simply a matter of supply and demand.

For example , so called teacup taillights for my 77' mazda 818, will cost me near 1200 aus dollars, just because they where made only one year and for the japanese marked only. Back here in the netherlands i can buy a complete car for that kind of money.

just want to say, hobby's always cost you a lot of money.

ps. nothing will be the same as the real thing. The output on your screen may be the same, but it wil never give you the same feeling of a real amiga.

[klx300r]

@ DigiMan

If you've lost your passion for your hobby take a break from it for a while. I don't recommend selling any gear that's hard to find nowadays or you have an emotional connection too as I sold some stuff 10 years ago and still regret it.

Perhaps try out some NG gear & might reignite your passion for the classics.

[Everblue]

I am very happy with my SAM 440/OS 4 machine, tbh.  I've been coding on it lately (concerting old 68k software to native PPC) and it's a real treat to develop for.

As far as being slow developmentally, there's been 5 update packs in the 4 years I've owned it.  None being revolutionary really, just fixes and evolutionary.  Legacy/emulation got a bit shot in the arm a few updates ago, as the OS now comes with fairly seamless 68k emulation and it comes with ROM's.

Main problem with OS4 machines is the high cost of entry.  MOS is the clear winner when it comes to "bang for your buck" with the NG platforms.

Do you think I should go for a Sam440 or spend extra and get a Sam460 instead? Also, I have no interest in MOS :/

[paul1981]

Some of us are pushing the old girl very hard....

Curse Of Monkey Island running in AGA mode

Just checked your video. Nice!
Regarding your complaints about hard drive speed, I'm getting more than double, possibly tripple your hard drive speed on my 060/80 with FastATA. Check out my gallery: http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3721

Can't say I've got around to using ScummVM yet, as I have lots of other Amiga projects at the moment, but I'll definitely be trying it out at first opportunity.

Keep up the good work mate.

[NovaCoder]

Just checked your video. Nice!
Regarding your complaints about hard drive speed, I'm getting more than double, possibly tripple your hard drive speed on my 060/80 with FastATA. Check out my gallery: http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3721

Can't say I've got around to using ScummVM yet, as I have lots of other Amiga projects at the moment, but I'll definitely be trying it out at first opportunity.

Keep up the good work mate.

Hiya,

Yep I was thinking about  changing my IDeFix Express over to FastATA but they are such a horrible bit of hardware to work with that I'm trying to hold out for Jens to release his new SATA based IdeFix Express which should be very special.

Your setup should run ScummVM AGA very nicely, you should give it a whirl.

Now I'm starting work on NetSurf AGA, that should keep me busy for a while

Like I said, the Classic scene is not dead.   New software continues to be written the pushes the hardware and thanks to people like Jens new hardware is also being developed.   In a lot of ways the Classic scene is more active than the NG scene(s) and certainly more interesting to people like me.

[Duce]

You'd be far happier with the 460, Nostromo.  The price difference isn't terribly great between it and the 440's and the 460 performs far better.

I find my 440ep sufficient for what I personally do on it, but if you were to throw multimedia, rendering or gaming at it you'd find it to be terribly anemic.

[Iggy]

You'd be far happier with the 460...

Definitely the minimum you'd want.
And there are still some X1000s available if you want something that has CPU power comparable to what the MorphOS community has had lately.

[Lurch]

Switched to a Mini ITX socket 775 based PC that boots directly into WB 3.1 and runs faster than my fastest real Amiga ever ran, quiet as a churchmouse.  The size of a kleenex box.

This is probably the best option, Have a similar setup with a midi tower but have seriously thought about an itx setup, even a case without an optical drive would be cool :-)

Hmm, have thought hard about selling my a500 but just can't do it, but with the hassles in keeping it going might put it in a box.

Got me thinking again Duce :-)

[klx300r]

Do you think I should go for a Sam440 or spend extra and get a Sam460 instead? Also, I have no interest in MOS :/

I'll give you the same advice I left you at aw.net, go with the Sam460/AmigaOne 500 especially now that you can gain a free PCI slot and use the latest Radeon HD cards.

I sold my Samflex@800 over a year ago and even though it was a quick & reliable board to run OS4.1 it needed a few hundred more Mhz to smoothly run some AGA game via E-UAE, play videos, render dwgs in Blender/Lightwave quicker etc.

[Duce]

I'm not slamming on the guys that prefer "the real McCoy".  There's a lot of charm in the old legacy Amiga systems, that's for sure.  Charm you'll never really get from an emulation machine if what you are after is an old timey, full fledged hands on experience with an original Amiga.

I simply got sick of frittering around with 20 year old hardware, hardware that took up too much space, was too cobbled together.  I found it far easier just to throw a Mini ITX machine together, and I picked up a Corsair K90 mechanical keyboard to give me the old time clicky experience.

Lurch, case I used for my Mini ITX build is neat - sort of reminds me of the Walker case in a vague way:

http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=2102&fid=23

My rig has XP installed but I've got it setup so it boots directly into WB 3.1, never see the Windoze side at all unless you need to.  Emulation isn't for everyone, but even the most dedicated Amiga guys have fun on my little M-ITX rig.  It's dead silent, power efficient and absolutely tiny.

[slayer]

Do you think I should go for a Sam440 or spend extra and get a Sam460 instead? Also, I have no interest in MOS :/

You know I'm going to say get both :hammer:

seriously though, I'm tossing up getting a SAM460 myself :knuddel:

[Iggy]

...go with the Sam460/AmigaOne 500 especially now that you can gain a free PCI slot and use the latest Radeon HD cards

THAT has to be the best selling point of the 460, its PCIe slot.
The faster processor is also nice.

Obviously, no one wanted to chime in about the X1000, but I'm quite fond of A-eon.
And Trevor has already been quoted stating that they are working with Varisys to develop additional products.-

Remember, it was Trevor that financed the Radeon HD drivers.