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IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« on: November 06, 2012, 03:25:46 PM »
How can I fix my IDEfix97?

According to Thomas' Awesome Hard Drive FAQ
my IDEfix97 is broken and won't let me use my 2TB drives in my Amiga :(

Is there any way to fix this problem?

I want to be able to plug in a 2TB drive and basically make 20 different 100GB PFS3 partitions.  + a few small boot partitions at the start.  I know that is a lot of partitions but PFS3 has a silly 104GB limit and I can't wait for Piru to cook up PFS4 :)
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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 03:49:59 PM »
I wonder why you need to call things broken or silly. Do you really think you get accurate help if you insult other people's hard work?

IDEfix'97 was published in 1997 and went out of support short after. So it is really impossible that it supports standards which were invented in 2002.

Similar reasons apply to PFS3. Its design goes back to its predecessors PFS3 and AFS, probably even more far back. When it was published a harddisk bigger than 100 GB was simply not imaginable.

Back to your question: do you need IDEfix, i.e. do you have a 4-way adapter or IDEfix-Express? If not, you can remove IDEfix and use OS3.9 instead. You can patch OS3.9's scsi.device up to version 43.45, then (and only then) you have working LBA48 support.

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 07:58:59 PM »
stupid question perhaps... but is there really enough Amiga OS/Software to fill 2T ??

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 08:34:11 PM »
here is a link to where I go for file size limits.
http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/filesyslimits.html
 

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 08:44:41 PM »
Quote from: Nostalgiac;714038
stupid question perhaps... but is there really enough Amiga OS/Software to fill 2T ??

Tom UK

The whole of Aminet has "recently crossed the 30 GB barrier" (Quote from Aminet). Puts things into perspective a bit.
Then there's probably 5GB of games (commercial and PD). Everything else that exists besides probably takes it up to 50GB at most.
With 2TB you could store a lot of digital music, or photo's. He doesn't necessarily want to strictly store Amiga stuff. He could want to store all of his digital camera photo's. That would be a good idea, as I'd personally trust my data on an Amiga more than any other computer.
 

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 10:47:09 PM »
Quote from: Nostalgiac;714038
stupid question perhaps... but is there really enough Amiga OS/Software to fill 2T ??

Tom UK

Quote from: paul1981;714042
The whole of Aminet has "recently crossed the 30 GB barrier" (Quote from Aminet). Puts things into perspective a bit.
Then there's probably 5GB of games (commercial and PD). Everything else that exists besides probably takes it up to 50GB at most.
With 2TB you could store a lot of digital music, or photo's. He doesn't necessarily want to strictly store Amiga stuff. He could want to store all of his digital camera photo's. That would be a good idea, as I'd personally trust my data on an Amiga more than any other computer.

Well depends on how you look at it, the latest Amiga CD tosec is 234GB large when compressed, the Amiga cd coverdisk tosec is 103GB compressed, the Amiga CD Compilations tosec is 100GB etc.
I have Amiga related stuff filling 2x 2TB drives containing all Amiga related I can get my hands on from software, games (including cracked software and original), scans of manuals, boxarts, schematics etc, TV commercials, magazines, music etc the list is long.

So Amiga related materials is aplenty and a lot is viewable from a Amiga :) But software wise you wont fill near 2TB that's true.
 

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 02:18:14 AM »
Quote from: Nostalgiac;714038
stupid question perhaps... but is there really enough Amiga OS/Software to fill 2T ??

Tom UK


Sure is.

For example, I donno how big Recorded Amiga Games site is but I would just assume they have 1TB of videos there.

I assume there are at least 20TB of Amiga videos on YouTube.

If I fully uncompressed all the level datas for Total Chaos AGA it would be 1844674407370.9551616 TB (Chaos Compression Algorithm FTW!)

If you can't come up with at least 2TB of Amiga stuff then you just aren't trying :D
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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 02:35:59 AM »
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I wonder why you need to call things broken or silly. Do you really think you get accurate help if you insult other people's hard work?


My apologies sir.  I did not mean to insult anyone or their work.

It was just funny to me (ironic) that I was asking for "how to fix my IDEfix".  If I need to fix something then logically it must be broken :D  See, its just a joke :)  I am not trying to be rude.  It just really struck me as ironic.  I know I didn't word it very well.  I lack Franko's talent for being silly and funny and I lack that other guy's (can't remember his name but he knows who he is... CommodoreJohn maybe?) writing skillz.  Anyway I am sorry and I hope we can still be friends as I really respect your work a lot.  You are one of my absolute most favoritest people in the Amigaforumverse. :bowdown:  Right up there with Piru and Olsen and Cobra and Yabba.


As to the "silly" comment, I thought I was pretty clear on that one that I was poking fun at the completely logical and prevalent limit of 104 that we have all come up against when writing software :D    Its just a combination joke + motivation to get Piru to make a PFS4 with 307.6 GB partitions :)
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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 02:58:21 AM »
Quote from: paul1981;714042
The whole of Aminet has "recently crossed the 30 GB barrier" (Quote from Aminet). Puts things into perspective a bit.
Then there's probably 5GB of games (commercial and PD).

You are thinking way to small my friend.  I had 5GB of Amiga software (games + busines + art + textures + fonts + sounds + music) by around 1993 and I certainly did not have everything made.

Today I have 32GB just of Amiga CD gamez and I don't have all of them.

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Everything else that exists besides probably takes it up to 50GB at most.

I have around 8GB of Amiga fonts.

I have something like 700GB of gfx and sounds and we constantly make more.


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With 2TB you could store a lot of digital music, or photo's. He doesn't necessarily want to strictly store Amiga stuff. He could want to store all of his digital camera photo's. That would be a good idea, as I'd personally trust my data on an Amiga more than any other computer.


You make a great point!

But why would digital music and photos not count as Amiga stuff?  Commodore machines practically invented digital music and digital photos.

The first digital music I ever heard that didn't hurt my ears was on the C64.  The Entertainer Demo, Frogger, Frantic Freddie,  etc.  The first digital photo I ever saw that looked like a digital photo was an Amiga 500 showing the NewTek Demo Reel 1 and 2 with Laura Longfellow, Kiki Stockhammer and the Ragu Spaghetti Sauce bottle.  Do you not remember any of this?
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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 03:06:02 AM »
Quote from: som99;714050
Well depends on how you look at it, the latest Amiga CD tosec is 234GB large when compressed, the Amiga cd coverdisk tosec is 103GB compressed, the Amiga CD Compilations tosec is 100GB etc.
I have Amiga related stuff filling 2x 2TB drives containing all Amiga related I can get my hands on from software, games (including cracked software and original), scans of manuals, boxarts, schematics etc, TV commercials, magazines, music etc the list is long.


Woaw!  I love collecting that kind of stuff.  I have some but not nearly enough.

Tell your woman to prepare the guest room cuz I'm coming for a visit with my 2 brand new empty 2TB drives :D
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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 09:16:44 AM »
Quote from: Amiwest;714041
here is a link to where I go for file size limits.
http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/filesyslimits.html

Ubercool! This page nicely clears up the "filesystem mess" I have had in my head. There are just so many variables :razz:. Thanks!
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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 04:16:18 PM »
Wow folks!

That's a lot of Amiga stuff to have collected. My ambitions are smaller and include several HDDs of backups, but a bunch of stuff out there for the Amiga I don't save if I don't use it. At the other extreme is my home-kludged PC with 12 TB of storage with 3/4ths of it filled with movies. Standard res run about 3Gb and hiRes, such as, "Gone with the Wind" over 20 Gbs. These came via the old DirecTV TIVO hacked to allow copying of the stored contents and 5 years of all the movie channels. In total I have about 1200 movies (commercial free).  But many are crap.  All that has changed withe times (HW).

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 08:12:10 PM »
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Well depends on how you look at it, the latest Amiga CD tosec is 234GB large when compressed, the Amiga cd coverdisk tosec is 103GB compressed, the Amiga CD Compilations tosec is 100GB etc..

Yes, and I can believe it, but I was thinking more along the lines of Amiga programs/utilities/applications and what not, and games, not particularly animations or art collections or cd32 games that are also available on floppy as well. But yes, you certainly have a point, the collection could be that large if you wanted it to be.:cool:
 I suspect though that real unique programs/data wouldn't exceed 100GB. I certainly wouldn't know where to get 50GB of unique Amiga programs/floppy games let alone 1TB.

Then again, I'm with danbeaver, I'm not deliberatly trying to create an Amiga software preservation reserve (I can't rule it out though for the future). :D
 

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 08:46:36 PM »
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You are thinking way to small my friend.  I had 5GB of Amiga software (games + busines + art + textures + fonts + sounds + music) by around 1993 and I certainly did not have everything made.

Today I have 32GB just of Amiga CD gamez and I don't have all of them.


I have around 8GB of Amiga fonts.

I have something like 700GB of gfx and sounds and we constantly make more.




You make a great point!

But why would digital music and photos not count as Amiga stuff?  Commodore machines practically invented digital music and digital photos.

The first digital music I ever heard that didn't hurt my ears was on the C64.  The Entertainer Demo, Frogger, Frantic Freddie,  etc.  The first digital photo I ever saw that looked like a digital photo was an Amiga 500 showing the NewTek Demo Reel 1 and 2 with Laura Longfellow, Kiki Stockhammer and the Ragu Spaghetti Sauce bottle.  Do you not remember any of this?

Yes, I remember. I grew up with a C64. I love SID, but technically, it's an analogue synth, albeit digitally controlled. So really I'd say the Amiga impressed me the most regarding digital music.
The first graphics that I saw that had the wow factor for me was an Atari ST playing "Another World" at a mates (bear in mind the best I had seen were C64 up until then). Soon after, my next door neighbour had a new A500+ with Lotus, Lemmings, and The Simpsons... It was OMG!!! It was love at first sight... What visuals! What sounds! It blew me away basically.
Another mate had a Megadrive a bit before then, but It didn't impress me that much for some reason, although I love the MD now.
 

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Re: IDEfix97 limits my HD size to 128GB. How can I fix?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 11:27:02 PM »
Quote from: paul1981;714131
Yes, I remember. I grew up with a C64. I love SID, but technically, it's an analogue synth, albeit digitally controlled.

I'm not sure I'd agree that it's an analogue synth, because the oscillators, waveforms and envelope generators are digital. While the multiplying D/A's for modulation and FET's for filtering are what make up the analogue side.
 
The term analog/digital hybrid synthesizer is generally used, notably the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_ESQ-1 which uses the Ensoniq 5503. This is the chip Bob Yannes did after the SID, which included a load of things commodore wouldn't give him enough time to do plus a whole lot more.