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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2012, 11:36:24 PM »
I use ClassicWb 68k with 1.3 theme. I have also tried both lite and 3x on my 600. But settled for 68k in the end.

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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2012, 01:52:51 AM »
Quote from: CritAnime;710589
I use ClassicWb 68k with 1.3 theme. I have also tried both lite and 3x on my 600. But settled for 68k in the end.


Yes ClassicWB i think is cool, it runs fine on my Amiga 600 with 4 MB RAM.
Is your Amiga 1200 still in the closet most at the time :)
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2012, 01:59:03 AM »
Quote from: mfilos;710574
Highly vote for ClassicWB.
You can try the version that suits you best, although ClassicWB 3.9 on 030 is okey but not the best experience.

Atm I'm using a highly customized ClassicWB 3.9 on 8 colors MWB palette on my ECS A600 (with ACA630@30) with changed iconset on all environment with MagicWB icons.
It also has latest stuff from BB3/BB4 written on a custom Kickstart 3.9 for rebootless boot :)
Result is really nice for my taste, and blazingly fast even for an 030!!!



Some quick video can be seen here


That looks very nice :)
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2012, 02:25:30 AM »
Here's my ClassicWB on the Minimig (sorry for the link only, but it is a huge picture of the 42" screen):
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/SDC10114.jpg

This is a basic ClassicWB 3.9 screen using an Indivision screenmode (A4000):


And here my RTG version on my A4000:


Link to full size image:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/grab2.jpg
(I had replaced the AMIDOCK at the bottom with a Windows style task bar and moved AMIDOCK to the left side)
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2012, 02:29:11 AM »
Quote from: Darrin;710608
Here's my ClassicWB on the Minimig (sorry for the link only, but it is a huge picture of the 42" screen):
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/SDC10114.jpg

This is a basic ClassicWB 3.9 screen using an Indivision screenmode (A4000):


And here my RTG version on my A4000:


Link to full size image:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/grab2.jpg
(I had replaced the AMIDOCK at the bottom with a Windows style task bar and moved AMIDOCK to the left side)


Looks very nice :)  i wish i had that at least on one of my Amigas
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
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Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2012, 02:40:01 AM »
@ Lassie:

Your A4000 and A1200 should get something close with a 256 colour screenmode (of course they won't get those 1920x1080 screens).  My A2000 looks almost the same, except it is a lower resolution via a Cybervision643D RTG card.

All your A2000 and the 4MB A600 will manage the same ClassicWB as my Minimig.

If you decide to have a go at installing ClassicWB and have problems then post here.  We'll help with any questions.

Here's the link to ClassicWB home page:
http://classicwb.abime.net/

Read the minimum specs on the different versions and decide which on is best for you.
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2012, 02:45:15 AM »
Quote from: lassie;710606
Yes ClassicWB i think is cool, it runs fine on my Amiga 600 with 4 MB RAM.
Is your Amiga 1200 still in the closet most at the time :)

I have the ACA 630/25 Stealth Accelerator in my 600 so 68k is incredibly fast and resonsive. The others ran fine, in fact pretty darn well, but 68k does what I need it to and is just fast. I can't beleive how well an OS can actually run.
 
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Here's my ClassicWB on the Minimig (sorry for the link only, but it is a huge picture of the 42" screen):
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/SDC10114.jpg
 
This is a basic ClassicWB 3.9 screen using an Indivision screenmode (A4000):

 
And here my RTG version on my A4000:

 
Link to full size image:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/grab2.jpg
(I had replaced the AMIDOCK at the bottom with a Windows style task bar and moved AMIDOCK to the left side)

That is teh sexi, as the kids say it these days, except for that blood evlen thing (hord FTW BTW) ;)
 
I have had the 600 outputting 800x600 through the Indi ECS, thanks to info from mfilos's website. And it does it very well. But did I dream this or did someone get the Indi ECS to do Picasso96?

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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2012, 02:50:07 AM »
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That is teh sexi, as the kids say it these days, except for that blood evlen thing (hord FTW BTW) ;)


LOL.  Don't worry, I hang out in Stormwind.  I just can't resist bad girls.  :D
 
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I have had the 600 outputting 800x600 through the Indi ECS, thanks to info from mfilos's website. And it does it very well. But did I dream this or did someone get the Indi ECS to do Picasso96?


I haven't heard that.  The reason my A4000 is using an Indivision mode but has P96 modes available in the 1st screenshot was that I had an old ViRGE card fitted while I was waiting for my Radeon to arrive from Elbox.

The 2nd A4000 pic is of the Radeon fitted and most of the 256MB of RAM on the card allocated as system RAM.
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2012, 02:53:00 AM »
Quote from: Darrin;710611
@ Lassie:

Your A4000 and A1200 should get something close with a 256 colour screenmode (of course they won't get those 1920x1080 screens).  My A2000 looks almost the same, except it is a lower resolution via a Cybervision643D RTG card.

All your A2000 and the 4MB A600 will manage the same ClassicWB as my Minimig.

If you decide to have a go at installing ClassicWB and have problems then post here.  We'll help with any questions.

Here's the link to ClassicWB home page:
http://classicwb.abime.net/

Read the minimum specs on the different versions and decide which on is best for you.


Okay thanks i will have a look and see what i will choose. And i am quite sure that i will run into a few problems :) but you all are very helpful here
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
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Commodore 64
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2012, 03:01:21 AM »
Quote from: Darrin;710613
LOL. Don't worry, I hang out in Stormwind. I just can't resist bad girls. :D
 
 
 
I haven't heard that. The reason my A4000 is using an Indivision mode but has P96 modes available in the 1st screenshot was that I had an old ViRGE card fitted while I was waiting for my Radeon to arrive from Elbox.
 
The 2nd A4000 pic is of the Radeon fitted and most of the 256MB of RAM on the card allocated as system RAM.

Hmm mfilos usually has his ear to the ground about the Indi ECS so I will shoot a message over to him. But they are still very nice looking Amiga screens. What is it like working with that much space?
 
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I knew I hadn't imagined it (http://mfilos.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/a600-picasso96-via-indivision-ecs.html) I know what i will be trying when I finish this set of night shifts lol.
 
Quote from: lassie;710616
Okay thanks i will have a look and see what i will choose. And i am quite sure that i will run into a few problems :) but you all are very helpful here

How I set it all up was configure WinUAE to the specs of my system and installed the various versions of CWB that I was interested in on it to guage how resposive it possibly could be. Once i decided I connected my formatted CF to my pc, configured WinUAE to accept it as a blank physcial drive and just transfered the entire system across to the CF using dopus.
 
Easy enough but a bit of a bitch the first time you try it lol. If you have issues formatting the CF for any reason I grabbed a image of Amiga911 which has some handy tools. But do ask if you get stuck.
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2012, 03:15:47 AM »
Quote from: CritAnime;710617
Hmm mfilos usually has his ear to the ground about the Indi ECS so I will shoot a message over to him. But they are still very nice looking Amiga screens. What is it like working with that much space?


Great, because you can resize things like your WHDLoad draws and see the 36 other "A-Z 0-9" draws without scrolling.  Surfing the net in Ibrowse2 is handy in that resolution too.
 
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How I set it all up was configure WinUAE to the specs of my system and installed the various versions of CWB that I was interested in on it to guage how resposive it possibly could be. Once i decided I connected my formatted CF to my pc, configured WinUAE to accept it as a blank physcial drive and just transfered the entire system across to the CF using dopus.
 
Easy enough but a bit of a bitch the first time you try it lol. If you have issues formatting the CF for any reason I grabbed a image of Amiga911 which has some handy tools. But do ask if you get stuck.


Same here, even down to formatting the CF card.  If you do it on the PC, use Amiga Forver and boot into the "AmigaSYS" OS.  The HDToolbox in that version has never failed me for mounting, prepping and formatting "Amiga" hard drives or CF cards on my PC.
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2012, 03:19:37 AM »
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Great, because you can resize things like your WHDLoad draws and see the 36 other "A-Z 0-9" draws without scrolling. Surfing the net in Ibrowse2 is handy in that resolution too.
 
 
 
Same here, even down to formatting the CF card. If you do it on the PC, use Amiga Forver and boot into the "AmigaSYS" OS. The HDToolbox in that version has never failed me for mounting, prepping and formatting "Amiga" hard drives or CF cards on my PC.

Don't know if you noticed but I linked to Milfos website where he got it working on a 600 with indi ECS so gonna give that a bash after I finish nights.
 
Never knew that about Amiga Forever. I have the 2012 plus version and if it works better than the Amiga911 disk then it might save me some headaches. Because that disk is not very intuative the first time you use it. Very handy but a pain in the neck to use the first time.

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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2012, 03:33:44 AM »
Quote from: CritAnime;710620
Don't know if you noticed but I linked to Milfos website where he got it working on a 600 with indi ECS so gonna give that a bash after I finish nights.


I didn't see it.  Amazing!

I still fondly remember using a serial link to send a 1024x768 8bit RTG Workbench screen from my A1200 for my Win95 PC to display.  Using your PC has a RTG card... :D
 
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Never knew that about Amiga Forever. I have the 2012 plus version and if it works better than the Amiga911 disk then it might save me some headaches. Because that disk is not very intuative the first time you use it. Very handy but a pain in the neck to use the first time.


Just remember to run AF as an Administrator, select AmigaSYS to boot, mount the CD card as an Amiga drive, "reboot" your UAE Amiga, go to HDToolbox and (IIRC) there are 3 different "SCSI" devices.  You'll find the CF card/HD under one of them and just prep it and format it from there.  I use PFS3-DS for the file system.
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2012, 06:21:55 AM »
Hi guys,
Atm I'm just using 800x600 via Ratte's SuperPlus Monitor driver.
P96 via Lutz's driver is not as much responsive (still in beta) but the pros is the pseudo RTG meaning you take advantage of P96 stuff.

Only drawback of not using native modes like PAL/NTSC is the thing Indivision ECS has at changing modes from SuperPlus or HighGFX to Lo-Res when playing for example games...
(Indy logo with some delay almost unpredictable).
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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2012, 09:48:31 AM »
Quote from: rvo_nl;710583
nothing beats a fully patched, properly configured os3.9 install on a 060 + rtg setup.


I also vote for properly configured AmigaOS 3.9 with all the patches on any classic Amiga machine.
I don't understand the people who say 3.9 slow. Actually it's faster when you remove all the eye candy, icons, backdrops etc and install the proper patches and devices. On top of that you don't have to deal with AmigaOS 3.1 limitations, like small hard drive partitions and bugs. AmigaOS 3.9 is the best OS for classic machines without PPC board.

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Re: OS on Amiga
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 07, 2012, 09:58:23 AM »
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Hi guys,
Atm I'm just using 800x600 via Ratte's SuperPlus Monitor driver.
P96 via Lutz's driver is not as much responsive (still in beta) but the pros is the pseudo RTG meaning you take advantage of P96 stuff.

Only drawback of not using native modes like PAL/NTSC is the thing Indivision ECS has at changing modes from SuperPlus or HighGFX to Lo-Res when playing for example games...
(Indy logo with some delay almost unpredictable).


That's handy to know. I will just stick to 800x600 then. But if you need another test machine let me know and I would be happy to try it.