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Offline desiv

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Re: FinalWriter bounty?
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 05, 2012, 08:06:45 PM »
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If we want compatibility with modern formats it might be a massive project with eternal bug fixing with the old programs
Yes, it might..
Or it might not...  I only mean it is worth considering the options..


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they probably lost their interest even before it gets anywhere near the specs of the modern programs.
And that is one of my points..
Are we doing this for what we need?  Or are we doing this to reach the "specs of the modern programs"?  Those might be very different things...

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I think it would be better to port some modern software, even if it's a big job at first. But if the port gets made, then it already has pretty good compatibility with modern formats and maybe applying the new changes would be easier in future.

I think sometimes, this is true...
But other times, people end up adding/chasing features that virtually no one will use..  
If you watch the amount of changes that go into things like Open/Libre/{whatever it's called now}Office just trying to "catch" the current products with features I think most people will never use, I think THAT is a HUGE amount of work.

Now true, if you port the development libs over, so you can just use the same codebase with virtually no changes, then you can use the work of others..  Great.
But if you have to keep re-porting major parts whenever an update comes out, it might not be worth it..

And I've always been a fan of native code for native OS/hardware for speed and simplicity...

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Re: FinalWriter bounty?
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2012, 08:22:59 PM »
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And I've always been a fan of native code for native OS/hardware for speed and simplicity...desiv

Which is why I'm back to Cinnamon Writer. Yeah, it starts out on OS4, but the other two NG OS' its moving to also support the OS3.1 API.
 
Very native (and a lot less work then Open Office).
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Re: FinalWriter bounty?
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2012, 09:19:29 PM »
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As Senex stated over on the MZ.org thread, Woody does not even own all of Final Writer Sources, because parts of it were licensed, such as the Speller, and maybe the Grammar portions of it.


I really loved Final Writer and bought all the versions available. The really cool thing was the Thesaurus (unmatched by MS Word or any other one I've seen). If it isn't included, IMHO it's not worth the effort. Still Final Writer was the most Amiga-like program. No port of any Linux-based app will come close.
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Re: FinalWriter bounty?
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2012, 11:57:21 AM »
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Are we doing this for what we need?  Or are we doing this to reach the "specs of the modern programs"?  Those might be very different things...


I think this whole fuss is about having program with compatibility with modern programs and their formats. And I think that requires that most features have to be supported then. I think they save pretty complex things in their doc files and all those should be reproduceable on our programs. So, we have to reach their standards... and that is a really big job to write from scratch or glue into old software.

If there wouldn't be desire for compatibility, then Final Writer and other old programs would be just fine for the needs of the most people.

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And I've always been a fan of native code for native OS/hardware for speed and simplicity...


Me too, but in some cases it's just not possible with today's requirements and resources. Many things have ran away from single/small coder base project's capabilities. Like with movie players, browsers... and I think with this office/wp case too.
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