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Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« on: September 08, 2012, 10:11:47 PM »
As I've got an MT-32 and an Amiga MIDI interface in the mail, I'm wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a good MIDI sequencer to complete the package. I've nabbed some of the ones that sounded good from Aminet, but are there any other recommendations?
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2012, 10:26:03 PM »
I playing with Music-X v2 right now, the live performance looks good, but editing is pain. I cant figure out how to change the instruments.
This one records the vol levers and effects, like cutoff and resonance.
Manual would be good...


The other one that is simple that I like is Octamed Studio. If you are familiar with trackers then this would be piece of cake.

I'm still looking for other alternatives.
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 01:08:44 AM »
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amiman

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-Software-Music-X-/200815818197?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec18e35d5#ht_500wt_1203

there is music x manual for u!
Thanks, I hope nobody knows about that...:sealed: , let see if I can get it.
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 01:23:31 AM »
Bars & Pipes is still the best MIDI-only sequencer ever made for any platform.

But if you want something a little less resource intensive, Music-X, Dr. T's KCS, and even OctaMED SS will work well.
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2012, 02:42:32 AM »
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Bars & Pipes is still the best MIDI-only sequencer ever made for any platform.

But if you want something a little less resource intensive, Music-X, Dr. T's KCS, and even OctaMED SS will work well.


+1 for B&P

But ral-clan, I don't understand what you mean about it being resource intensive - it ran fine on my plain 68000 with 2MB of RAM! :)
 

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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2012, 03:04:17 AM »
With a 50MHz 030 and 32MB RAM, I don't think resources should be a problem ;)
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 03:27:59 AM »
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Bars & Pipes is still the best MIDI-only sequencer ever made for any platform.



+1


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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 05:39:33 PM »
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+1 for B&P

But ral-clan, I don't understand what you mean about it being resource intensive - it ran fine on my plain 68000 with 2MB of RAM! :)


Well, it's not resource intensive by today's standards, but I read on the B&P mailing list years ago that B&P wouldn't run well on a 68000 machine.  I've always used in on a 68040, and assumed it needed at least a 68020 to run without problems.

Nice to hear otherwise.  Do you do complex arrangements on a 68000?
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 05:45:00 PM »
I have B&P on one of the magazine's Cover disks, and I can tell you that did not run very well on 68000. Every time I try to play something, the system would freeze.
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 8MB RAM
A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 08:32:42 PM »
Hmmm, performance probably depends on what's being done with it. I remember loading in some MIDI files with the conversion tool (sMerFF?) and then using the Internal Sounds Kit to play back using Paula. Worked fine. Certainly not a complex piece, though. Maybe with more tools in use things could get sluggish.
 

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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 09:13:36 PM »
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I have B&P on one of the magazine's Cover disks, and I can tell you that did not run very well on 68000. Every time I try to play something, the system would freeze.


While I suspect that it was the 68000 that was giving you problems, I should point out that early on when trying to learn how to use B&P, I experienced a lot of freezes when trying to play a song.

After a while I realised that I had stupidly left the toggle switch on my MIDI interface set to SERIAL passthrough, rather than diverting the signal to the MIDI outputs.  

So maybe the freezing is because you've got some tracks set to output to a MIDI interface, but either you have your MIDI interface still set to SERIAL passthrough, or not plugged in?  Maybe?
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2012, 09:21:42 PM »
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While I suspect that it was the 68000 that was giving you problems, I should point out that early on when trying to learn how to use B&P, I experienced a lot of freezes when trying to play a song.

After a while I realised that I had stupidly left the toggle switch on my MIDI interface set to SERIAL passthrough, rather than diverting the signal to the MIDI outputs.  

So maybe the freezing is because you've got some tracks set to output to a MIDI interface, but either you have your MIDI interface still set to SERIAL passthrough, or not plugged in?  Maybe?
I'm in the MIDI mood this weekend so I may try again, but my A600 is 68030 now, so it should not be a problem.
I'm working with OctaMED Sound Studio right now, and it's pretty easy to navigate, so far is the easiest to program.
I'm using it with Roland GAIA, one thing I realized that GAIA can only support one patch at a time plus General Midi.
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 8MB RAM
A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2012, 11:39:52 PM »
Just curious, can OctaMED sequence/play back music featuring both Amiga sampled instruments and MIDI output to an external device? It might be fun to have both going on simultaneously.
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Re: Amiga MIDI sequencer?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2012, 12:22:09 AM »
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Just curious, can OctaMED sequence/play back music featuring both Amiga sampled instruments and MIDI output to an external device? It might be fun to have both going on simultaneously.
I think it can play MIDI and Amiga Sound at the same time, there is also option for Aura sound card.
You can choose Amiga Samples, MIDI, 16Bit Aura, Synth as a sound.
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 8MB RAM
A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
(AROS BOX) Dead :(