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Help with Amiga 600
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:12:09 PM »
Hi a few hours ago i took my Amiga 600 apart to correct the keyboard, but now i can not power it up, it is all dead. The last thing was there was light on caps lock all the time, and then i took the keyboard of and on again, and it was dead. Does anybody know what there could be wrong?
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 10:15:36 PM »
When you say dead do you mean the keyboard or the full system. Also which version. Of the 600 is it.

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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 10:28:12 PM »
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When you say dead do you mean the keyboard or the full system. Also which version. Of the 600 is it.


Hi it is the hole system, no power or picture. it has workbench 2.05 and 2 mb chip ram, and 4 gig cf hard disk. if that is what you mean
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 10:31:22 PM »
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When you say dead do you mean the keyboard or the full system. Also which version. Of the 600 is it.


And i also have Indivision ECS Scandoubler in it
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 10:38:36 PM »
It might not have anything to do with the removal of the keyboard, but simply the capacitors failing. I have gone through a few old A600s. They seem fine and boot up when I first plug them in, then I switch them off and mess around with cables or something, switch it back on and get nothing but a black screen and a Caps Lock light. It seems to be a very common problem with A600s in the last couple of years, those old capacitors are all failing these days.

There's a chance it might start working if you simply leave it turned on for a while on the black screen.
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 10:42:47 PM »
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It might not have anything to do with the removal of the keyboard, but simply the capacitors failing. I have gone through a few old A600s. They seem fine and boot up when I first plug them in, then I switch them off and mess around with cables or something, switch it back on and get nothing but a black screen and a Caps Lock light. It seems to be a very common problem with A600s in the last couple of years, those old capacitors are all failing these days.

There's a chance it might start working if you simply leave it turned on for a while on the black screen.


Okay thanks for your answer. i will try that, its a shame i just got it 3 weeks ago :-(
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 10:45:30 PM »
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It might not have anything to do with the removal of the keyboard, but simply the capacitors failing. I have gone through a few old A600s. They seem fine and boot up when I first plug them in, then I switch them off and mess around with cables or something, switch it back on and get nothing but a black screen and a Caps Lock light. It seems to be a very common problem with A600s in the last couple of years, those old capacitors are all failing these days.

There's a chance it might start working if you simply leave it turned on for a while on the black screen.


Are there a fuse in amiga 600? i do not seem to can find it
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 10:51:09 PM »
No fuses, it's all those little round, silver electrolytic capacitors all over the board. If you're not handy with a soldering iron yourself, you can send the motherboard to one of the Amiga repairers who usually offer an Amiga capacitor replacement service.

I know how you feel, I get temporarily excited that I have just got a working A600 but it doesn't last long.

It's best to get them repaired sooner rather than later though, the acid inside the capacitors will eventually leak out and begin damaging the motherboard and surrounding components.
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 10:57:22 PM »
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No fuses, it's all those little round, silver electrolytic capacitors all over the board. If you're not handy with a soldering iron yourself, you can send the motherboard to one of the Amiga repairers who usually offer an Amiga capacitor replacement service.

I know how you feel, I get temporarily excited that I have just got a working A600 but it doesn't last long.

It's best to get them repaired sooner rather than later though, the acid inside the capacitors will eventually leak out and begin damaging the motherboard and surrounding components.

Yes i think you are right, i did what you said i should do, and it came back on, but now it is dead again :(
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 11:27:32 PM »
Amigakit do a cap replacement service. I have thought about sending mine off for new ones before something major happens to it.

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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 11:37:49 PM »
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Amigakit do a cap replacement service. I have thought about sending mine off for new ones before something major happens to it.


Yes i think that is a good idea, before it goes wrong. better safe than sorry
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 11:42:13 PM »
Quote from: CritAnime;705730
Amigakit do a cap replacement service. I have thought about sending mine off for new ones before something major happens to it.


It is just a shame i only had it in 3 weeks, It was not a cheap Amiga when i got cf hard disk, and 2 mb chip ram and Indivision ECS scandoubler with it.
Do you have ACA 630 in yours?
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
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Commodore 64
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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 11:47:57 PM »
Hi.

Remove the scandoubler, memory card and CF disk..and turn it on, still dead?

More you get inside your amiga, more prone to fail. So go back to basic and just try it plain.


I cross my finger and hope you get the kickstart screen.

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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 11:53:30 PM »
Amiga 600's are also known to have poor quality soldering (off the assembly line) with tiny cracks that can lead to intermittent issues...

I'm sure Amigakit knows to look for that....
 

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Re: Help with Amiga 600
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 12:01:36 AM »
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Amiga 600's are also known to have poor quality soldering (off the assembly line) with tiny cracks that can lead to intermittent issues...


+1

Cracks around the CPU is common on A600.

Special if the owner before you have used add-on board over the CPU.
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