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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2012, 08:58:25 AM »
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It needs more ram . . .


I really hope they will make low end and high end model.
Even Pi has those.
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2012, 10:23:17 AM »
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 All Amiga software can easily address a 4GB memory address space which is about 3GB of useable RAM, (the rest is reserved for registers, expansion cards, etc).  But nobody will build us any hardware to actually use that much ram.


Make that 2GB addressspace and 1.5GB useable RAM as there are far to much function in the OS that return pointer as (signed) LONG with negative value pointing out some kind of error code.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2012, 02:11:48 PM »
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Natami has no deinterlacer.

Claudio could maybe sneak a deinterlacer into the system but the last I checked he was too mad at Gunnar (as are many others) to actually put in the hours of work it would take to get it in.  So basically you can forget about it.

On Natami if you want a noninterlaced screen then your program must actually open a noninterlaced screen such as any normal 31.5 Khz mode.


I stand corrected but disappointed :(. That also means at least one other "hardware guy" at least worked on the main board. Of course you have the inside scoop being a "Natami Team" member. I still don't understand how Gunnar pissed people off so bad.

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Make that 2GB addressspace and 1.5GB useable RAM as there are far to much function in the OS that return pointer as (signed) LONG with negative value pointing out some kind of error code.


Isn't there only 1 or 2 of those? I guess 1 is too much though. Why would the limitation be 1.5GB instead of 2GB? Not that I could imagine using that much memory on a 68k machine. I don't think TCL can use than much memory even if he buffers everything in Total Chaos :).
 

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #77 on: August 26, 2012, 05:30:46 PM »
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Not that I could imagine using that much memory on a 68k machine.

I think 7zip can use 2GB all by itself.
So can any modern web browser.



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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #78 on: August 26, 2012, 08:11:34 PM »
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Claudio could maybe sneak a deinterlacer into the system but the last I checked he was too mad at Gunnar (as are many others) to actually put in the hours of work it would take to get it in.  So basically you can forget about it..
Although, if Gunnar left the project a few months ago, that shouldn't be a problem anymore??

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #79 on: August 26, 2012, 08:31:58 PM »
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Although, if Gunnar left the project a few months ago, that shouldn't be a problem anymore??
You'd think...I'm sure the interpersonal drama was a pain and all, but a deinterlacer would be a seriously useful feature - be a shame for the system to not have it for no good reason.
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #80 on: August 26, 2012, 10:48:56 PM »
The netbook was just made up to steal some thunder from MOS which was about to be released to run on Mac PPC laptops.  I doubt it was ever a real product.
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2012, 12:15:21 AM »
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What makes you think it will be cheap?

http://www.osnews.com/story/25251/AmigaOne_X1000_To_Ship_by_Year_s_End_Amiga_Netbook_Announced/

$300 - $500 is certainly cheaper than current options - if they manage to produce it in that price bracket.

Like I said I hope they do, it can only be a good thing for the OS.
 

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2012, 12:35:58 AM »
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http://www.osnews.com/story/25251/AmigaOne_X1000_To_Ship_by_Year_s_End_Amiga_Netbook_Announced/

$300 - $500 is certainly cheaper than current options - if they manage to produce it in that price bracket.

Like I said I hope they do, it can only be a good thing for the OS.

Maybe. But i have a terrible feeling that they will add on the development costs on to the selling price to break even. Just look at the X1000, that rose in price significantly when it was first announced to when they released it.

But if it is cheap i will buy one.
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2012, 11:55:10 PM »
So, cutting to the chase ... there's no news on the myth-illogical 'NETBOOK' for OS4, AND there is little likelihood it will ever appear, so NO news is NOT good news, and especially as it's now way past Mid-2012, seeing as it's September 2012
 

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2012, 12:17:10 AM »
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So, cutting to the chase ... there's no news on the myth-illogical 'NETBOOK' for OS4, AND there is little likelihood it will ever appear, so NO news is NOT good news, and especially as it's now way past Mid-2012, seeing as it's September 2012


The OS4 "notebook" was just a ploy by Ben Hermans to try to stop people from buying the X1000 after his falling out with A-eon. It didn't ever have to actually exist.
 

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2012, 12:25:01 AM »
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The OS4 "notebook" was just a ploy by Ben Hermans to try to stop people from buying the X1000 after his falling out with A-eon. It didn't ever have to actually exist.

What fallout?  :confused:

Do you have a link?
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2012, 12:25:26 AM »
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Just look at the X1000, that rose in price significantly when it was first announced to when they released it.
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Yes, but they differ significantly in that the OS4 netbook is a real product basically.
Already being produced.
They just needed to port OS4 to it...

The problem that I see...

It should have been released already...

The fact that it's not out yet and no word on it....  Doesn't sound good.

Too bad..

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2012, 12:30:13 AM »
I haven't read all the comments, but if they have any news on the netbook it will surely be announced at Amiwest this year.
 

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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2012, 12:35:55 AM »
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II still don't understand how Gunnar pissed people off so bad.

Then you don't know Gunnar. He can get really personal. And he got really pissed off at me one time when I mentioned that comparing fps rates on MorphOS ports made with SDL to native Natami code was deceptive.
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Re: Any news on future release of OS4 netbook or on Natami?
« Reply #89 from previous page: September 11, 2012, 12:38:52 AM »
Last night i was looking at the Genesi Smartbook and couldn't help but wonder. Imagine the possibilities. Why don't we just switch over to ARM and be done with it.
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