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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #74 from previous page: January 21, 2004, 03:43:16 AM »
Okay, so I stretched the truth a bit when I said my previous post would be my only one on the topic...

@ downix

Thanks for stating your view on the subject. I wish that was the way more people saw things. Nothing would make me happier than to see AInc/Hyperion/Eyetech and Genesi combine resources.

As of right now however, the market is divided, and the A1/OS4 and Peg/MOS appear to me, the user, as competing products (hence the statement in my previous post).

I am trying to remain neutral throughout this whole crisis...
 

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2004, 03:58:21 AM »
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A sensible discussion? On aw.net?

Have you even read that thread you're talking about? Is that what you call sensible discussion?

A whole website full of people laying into one guy, just because he happened to state some facts they don't like. What Nate said was 100% accurate.

"Pre-alpha" is accurate?
 

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #76 on: January 21, 2004, 08:39:30 AM »
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Hyperion is a software house. Genesi does not resell as a general rule nor does it develop and sell software

I recall, both Hyperion and Genesi develop similar targeted operating systems. Both are gathering developers for each of their respective operating systems.

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It is Mai's resellers division, the section the manufactures the AmgiaONE for Eyetech

Perhaps  you are referring to the said “far east“ (Taiwanese) company?
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #77 on: January 21, 2004, 08:45:34 AM »
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OK, I am biting your bate, I am falling into the trap!


It was not meant as flame bate. The negativity surrounding Genesi and some very vocal employees and supporters is tempering my enthusiasm to buy one. That's how i feel about it.

But if you think that comments like those from "Eva" do the morphOS platform any good, than...

And indeed, maybe you are right. They still may feel themselves to be the underdog. That's just what i was trying to say. But why do they still need to?
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« Reply #78 on: January 21, 2004, 08:48:45 AM »
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But if you think that comments like those from "Eva" do the morphOS platform any good, than...


You know very well nobody likes her style and continuos bitching. Nobody.
 

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #79 on: January 21, 2004, 08:57:08 AM »
Added to this: I find it strange that something what obviously exists can be called Vaporware. Vaporware is "just hot air", meaning it does not exist (though OS 4 is not the only thing wrongly on the list, it seems... I guess Halflife 2 also really exists in some at least already playable version, hehehe :) )

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #80 on: January 21, 2004, 09:00:32 AM »
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You know very well nobody likes her style and continuos bitching. Nobody


That's why i didn't understand why Takemyhomegrandma mentioned her as the example. It really is the worst publicity one can have. And yes, even in such a small market, publicity is important.

Anyway, shouldn't mix in such useless discussions. Personally, i think that even one demo from Ephidrena or TBL or any other group will convince more than any of the useless bitching from the past years together.

You've got your platform. Well, bring it forward in  a positive way. Not by "accidentally" commenting as an employee on a competitor product.
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2004, 09:56:04 AM »
Pathetic... but hey! it is an honor to be near Half-Life 2!!!!!!!!! ;-)  :-o
 

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2004, 10:16:57 AM »
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Regardless of what you might think about the moderators or their style of moderation, it doesn't give you the right to call all that go there "loons"...


That's right. Which is why I didn't say that. AW may be a focal point for these types, but it's a stretch to say they're all like that. I know they're not. And it's AW's own fault that some are. It encourages such behaviour with its bizarre moderation style and can hardly complain when their efforts bear the fruit they wanted.

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Yeah, "don't feed the trolls unless they speak in the opposite direction". Do you really think that this wouldn't happen on morphos-centered site? Be honest.


Ok, to be honest: it never actually comes up. MorphOS-centered sites don't discuss Amiga 'politics'. They discuss things related to MorphOS. If you're saying that AmigaWorld wants to be like that for OS4, maybe it should be renamed AmigaOS4World?

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If "that Nate Downes thing" is indicative for Aw.net, then your calling a general group of people "loons" just because they visit and frequent a certain web site...So it all boils down to the reasoning "They are loons because I know they are"?


No, I call them loons because they are. I don't really care what OS, hardware or site they chose. They're adults. It's the "GENSEI SI LAME!!!!1 it is so funny", the "Petition to get Doom3 ported to OS5, that would be GREAT!!!!!" kind of stuff that gets them their loony label. Even if you looked outside the community for views with no 'blue bias', they'd probably still think these people were ravening crazies. What 'kind' of people do you think these would be? Self-righteous? Or just sensible?
 

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #83 on: January 21, 2004, 10:17:37 AM »
Oh darn, I'm all out of popcorn. Hold the flaming and bitching while I get a new shipment, guys.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2004, 11:16:59 AM »
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No, I call them loons because they are. I don't really care what OS, hardware or site they chose. They're adults. It's the "GENSEI SI LAME!!!!1 it is so funny", the "Petition to get Doom3 ported to OS5, that would be GREAT!!!!!" kind of stuff that gets them their loony label


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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2004, 11:25:45 AM »
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No, I call them loons because they are. I don't really care what OS, hardware or site they chose. They're adults. It's the "GENSEI SI LAME!!!!1 it is so funny", the "Petition to get Doom3 ported to OS5, that would be GREAT!!!!!" kind of stuff that gets them their loony label. Even if you looked outside the community for views with no 'blue bias', they'd probably still think these people were ravening crazies. What 'kind' of people do you think these would be? Self-righteous? Or just sensible?


My, my Kenny! What a high horse you have there!

I am the biggest culprit of such enthusiams, and is why I am the leading poster of some complete and utter crap. However, that does not give you the moral grounds for such a scathing, stereotypical (which your political persuasion precludes, allegedly) and utter blasphemy of a whole grouping of computing enthusiasts. I have seen many posts on different forums talking of "AWorld folk jerk off over Hermans" crap, I have seen this loony post, and I think, what complete #### this is. It's a fcuking computer for crying out loud! Who cares if someone likes a bit of plastic and two screws which essentially go up to make a computer, does that non-conformity with your view go to make everyone else a parasite, or "loony" as you so eloquently put it?

However, it is funny I tell you, for I too was a most angry young man. Full of political zeal, I would charge headlong into any conversation and behave in a bellicose manner. They would turn to me and call me a "loony". How much moreso, if one were to read your psychological  assessment of the "loons" over at AWorld, how much would people in the wider community view yourself! You should not presume too much in your life, for I too experience many reversals in general life.

I am no techie when it comes to computers, I am a gamer at heart, but those people who purpotedly know "nothing" of the technical aspects of Amigas, have actually been ten times more forthcoming than yourself to assist me. Where were you when I needed help with my XSurf for example? I did not see you fall head over heels to help me out. However, it's easier to sit where you are, and laugh and point at the incompetencies of some 1900 members of Amigaworld, isn't it?

In any case, I cannot speak for all the members of Amigaworld, but I must ask something: Does one have to be a techie (and how is that assessed qualitatively?) in order to be an enthusiast of computers in general, and Amigas in particlular? If the answer is yes, then why is it that all manufacturers seek to expand into the general consumer base? Why are not these products sold only to the l337 g33|
I sit a crime to become enthusiastic of a port of a game to one's chosen platform? Bloody hell! Whole computer magazines are devoted to such subjects, yet you think it to be obscene and smacks of "lunacy". What will you do, O Kenny, slash your wrists because millions of people out there who are XBox enthusiasts, PS2 enthusiasts, PC enthusiasts, think differently to yourself maybe? At the end of the day, it is only a computer.

Never, speak in a derogatory manner of a whole group of people, who actively, or impassively, may disagree with an opinion of yours. If you wish to slam anyone who is a regular of Amigaworld for the things discussed above, then aim it at me, for it is I who possesses all those attributes, and especially of the "loon" factor. :crazy:
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #86 on: January 21, 2004, 11:34:15 AM »
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No, I call them loons because they are. I don't really care what OS, hardware or site they chose. They're adults. It's the "GENSEI SI LAME!!!!1 it is so funny", the "Petition to get Doom3 ported to OS5, that would be GREAT!!!!!" kind of stuff that gets them their loony label. Even if you looked outside the community for views with no 'blue bias', they'd probably still think these people were ravening crazies. What 'kind' of people do you think these would be? Self-righteous? Or just sensible?


My, my Kenny! What a high horse you have there!

I am the biggest culprit of such enthusiams, and is why I am the leading poster of some complete and utter crap. However, that does not give you the moral grounds for such a scathing, stereotypical (which your political persuasion precludes, allegedly) and utter blasphemy of a whole grouping of computing enthusiasts. I have seen many posts on different forums talking of "AWorld folk jerk off over Hermans" crap, I have seen this loony post, and I think, what complete #### this is. It's a fcuking computer for crying out loud! Who cares if someone likes a bit of plastic and two screws which essentially go up to make a computer, does that non-conformity with your view go to make everyone else a parasite, or "loony" as you so eloquently put it?

However, it is funny I tell you, for I too was a most angry young man. Full of political zeal, I would charge headlong into any conversation and behave in a bellicose manner. They would turn to me and call me a "loony". How much moreso, if one were to read your psychological  assessment of the "loons" over at AWorld, how much would people in the wider community view yourself! You should not presume too much in your life, for I too experience many reversals in general life.

I am no techie when it comes to computers, I am a gamer at heart, but those people who purpotedly know "nothing" of the technical aspects of Amigas, have actually been ten times more forthcoming than yourself to assist me. Where were you when I needed help with my XSurf for example? I did not see you fall head over heels to help me out. However, it's easier to sit where you are, and laugh and point at the incompetencies of some 1900 members of Amigaworld, isn't it?

In any case, I cannot speak for all the members of Amigaworld, but I must ask something: Does one have to be a techie (and how is that assessed qualitatively?) in order to be an enthusiast of computers in general, and Amigas in particlular? If the answer is yes, then why is it that all manufacturers seek to expand into the general consumer base? Why are not these products sold only to the l337 g33|
I sit a crime to become enthusiastic of a port of a game to one's chosen platform? Bloody hell! Whole computer magazines are devoted to such subjects, yet you think it to be obscene and smacks of "lunacy". What will you do, O Kenny, slash your wrists because millions of people out there who are XBox enthusiasts, PS2 enthusiasts, PC enthusiasts, think differently to yourself maybe? At the end of the day, it is only a computer.

Never, speak in a derogatory manner of a whole group of people, who actively, or impassively, may disagree with an opinion of yours. If you wish to slam anyone who is a regular of Amigaworld for the things discussed above, then aim it at me, for it is I who possesses all those attributes, and especially of the "loon" factor. :crazy:


Woh!!! Sounds like you had that brewing for a long time! :-o

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2004, 11:39:15 AM »
@ Bloodline

Nah, spur of the moment thing:-D


Believe me, it is nothing personal as such. It does get to me when I see slanderous sentiments being thrown at people whom I consider to be friends, even though I may not have met them in person.  At the end of the day, like I stated above, an Amiga is just a computer, that's all, nothing more nothing less. I don't really go into rants on the web (reduces actual quantity post time :-D ), but whole scathing insults really get to me. Oh well, c'est la vie (sp.?) as the French say. I hope that my above post reduces the acute abuse being hurled at each other, but it probably won't... :-(
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« Reply #88 on: January 21, 2004, 12:01:29 PM »
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I prefer to only visit places where other opinions rather than the official line are tolerated.


I take it you also avoid Morphzone then?

FWIW, I've posted on AW several times that I've been using my Pegasos in favour of my A1 and no one seemed to mind.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 makes Wired News!
« Reply #89 on: January 21, 2004, 12:22:38 PM »
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I take it you also avoid Morphzone then?


.. and next to that please provide the thread where someone was moderated for raising valid questions about MorphOS, Pegasos or Genesi.

You know as well as I do that there are no such rules, and you know what kind of storm it would rise on other forums if we moderate someone for asking sensitive questions.

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Not that it would help in getting answers... seems like BBRV has stopped visiting MZ

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