OS4 Firefox (Timberwolf) bounty completed!

[takemehomegrandma]

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=36052&forum=32&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#673979

With RC1 out we (the bounty team) decided that bounty requirements were met. Of course we hope that new bugs will be fixed and speed and stability improved over time but all in all the Friedens have met the requirements.

Apparently, the money was transferred yesterday and the bounty was closed at the same time.

Congratulations goes to the Friedens! Now don't spend it all on candy!

[Kesa]

Mother of god! You said something positive about the red camp! :eek:

[takemehomegrandma]

Mother of god! You said something positive about the red camp! :eek:

Well, finally having (after so many years) a fully working web browser solution (the OS4 version of Odyssey (or "MUI-OWB" as they still call it erroneously, for some strange reason) isn't even close to the latest MorphOS version in fundamental areas) is certainly a milestone for OS4 worth highlighting in a thread of its own here on Amiga.org!

It must feel good for them to finally not having to resort to using two or three different browsers anymore on a single www session!

[klx300r]

hey grandma are you ok ? no seriously;)

[KimmoK]

I continue using IBrowse as my main WWW app. To my understanding so does many others. (MOS and AOS4 users)

Is there any hope for new PPC native build of IBrowse?


(on pages that IB does not work, I try netsurf, then OWB, then Timber. Speed matters on my 667Mhz system.)

[Duce]

I find IBrowse so hideously out of date on my SAM I'd be better off sending smoke signals to webservers.  When it does display things, it crashes.  Most of the time it just doesn't show anything properly.

I honestly don't know how anyone can use it in this day and age.  I'd rather use Lynx.

[takemehomegrandma]

I continue using IBrowse as my main WWW app.

Surely you're not serious? You can't be using the web much then... :lol:

To my understanding so does many others. (MOS and AOS4 users)

I'd be very surprised if a single MorphOS user is using Ibrowse as their main web browser, or indeed even having it installed on their computer at all.

Is there any hope for new PPC native build of IBrowse?

Odyssey certainly is like a 2012 version of Ibrowse, i.e. a true Amiga browser but in 2012 standards.

Speed matters on my 667Mhz system.

If you have to resort to using Ibrowse because of your limited CPU resources, then you clearly have a much too weak computer. Complex web pages and HD media content is everywhere now, that kind of stuff is part of the common daily routine for desktop systems today, and even my $129 Efika MX handles this just fine. There are no shortcuts, you need a certain minimum level of performance in desktop today, using ancient and obsolete applications like Ibrowse certainly isn't the answer...

[spirantho]

I use OWB on my 600MHz Sam 440ep... I guess different people have different levels of acceptability of speed.
I very rarely use IBrowse, it's just not compatible enough. When I do use a "classic" browser I use AWeb, anyway.

I didn't know the Efika MX could run MorphOS...? I thought it was an 800MHz ARM? Wouldn't be fair to compare Linux (which has much more resources) a Cortex A-8 based system with a Sam running AmigaOS (or MorphOS if it existed on that platform).

It is nice to see TMHG posting positive news about AOS4? Could this be a sign of a new co-operation and mutual respect between camps? Please?

[jj]

I use OWB on my 600MHz Sam 440ep... I guess different people have different levels of acceptability of speed.
I very rarely use IBrowse, it's just not compatible enough. When I do use a "classic" browser I use AWeb, anyway.
 
I didn't know the Efika MX could run MorphOS...? I thought it was an 800MHz ARM? Wouldn't be fair to compare Linux (which has much more resources) a Cortex A-8 based system with a Sam running AmigaOS (or MorphOS if it existed on that platform).
 
It is nice to see TMHG posting positive news about AOS4? Could this be a sign of a new co-operation and mutual respect between camps? Please?

http://www.genesi-tech.com/efika

[spirantho]

http://www.genesi-tech.com/efika

That's the Efika, not the MX though (which is a completely different beast). Or am I missing something...?

[number6]

It is nice to see TMHG posting positive news about AOS4? Could this be a sign of a new co-operation and mutual respect between camps? Please?

Surely you jest.

btw-for those who post one side of their "personna" here and a different one on moo...

If someone tells you that Timberwolf will require payment in the future, they are simply BS'ing. Timberwolf will ALWAYS remain a free program, just like Firefox is a free program. Even if sale of the program would even be possible (I don't believe it is), we would never do that. Feel free to quote me on that wherever someone tell you otherwise.

tfrieden

#6

[jorkany]

Surely you jest.

btw-for those who post one side of their "personna" here and a different one on moo...

If someone tells you that Timberwolf will require payment in the future, they are simply BS'ing. Timberwolf will ALWAYS remain a free program, just like Firefox is a free program. Even if sale of the program would even be possible (I don't believe it is), we would never do that. Feel free to quote me on that wherever someone tell you otherwise.

tfrieden

#6

So they plan to change the name from Timberwolf? Interesting...

[Geit]

I continue using IBrowse as my main WWW app. To my understanding so does many others. (MOS and AOS4 users)

The only reason to use iBrowse on MorphOS is when you are using an Efika, because of the 128MB memory limit and even there it is possible to use OWB, if you pick the right version and save memory where you can. Speed if more than fine. It even plays videos, so speed is not an issue. Tabs and picture loaded pages are making OWB usage on Efika a pain for sure.

OWB on MorphOS has all iBrowse features, looks like it, is for free and even is included on the MorphOS CD.

Why would anyone mess with an outdated web browser, which produces the longest websites on the planet? (missing style sheet support) If you prefer that look you can configure OWB to look like ibrowse again and to create the same ugly page layouts.

Geit

[Tomas]

If you have to resort to using Ibrowse because of your limited CPU resources, then you clearly have a much too weak computer. Complex web pages and HD media content is everywhere now, that kind of stuff is part of the common daily routine for desktop systems today, and even my $129 Efika MX handles this just fine. There are no shortcuts, you need a certain minimum level of performance in desktop today, using ancient and obsolete applications like Ibrowse certainly isn't the answer...

And that is exactly the problem. There is no affordable os4.x hardware that has anywhere near enough power.
I dont know how rc1 is of timberwolf, but the earlier was at least completely unusable on my sam system.
And there is no way I will ever afford the x1000 either.
Even though Ibrowse is ancient, it is at least more useable than timberwolf on such a low end system.
As a main browser I use mui-owb/odyssey though.

[runequester]

Ibrowse works okay on my A1200 It doesn't crash barely ever, but it IS slow of course.

I couldn't get it work on MOS, but OWB works great in any event.