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Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« on: July 19, 2012, 02:55:22 AM »
Just finished reading a bunch of scans old amiga magazines, and it got me thinking about one of the few amiga models I have never seen in person: the Amiga 1000.


So tell us about your 1000 experiences.

Did you own one "back in the day"?
Did you buy one later in life (past the heyday of amiga's)?

What attracted you to it back then? What parts didn't you like?

If you bought one years later, what attracted you?

Did you expand them? Use it "raw" ? What did you do on it back then? Today?
 

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 03:24:03 AM »
I owned multiple C64's, C128's, every possible peripheral including several 1581's ect. A friend - co-worker of mine was telling me about this amazing new Amiga that had just come out a while ago, the 1000. I checked with my local dealer and they were still about $1000.00 at the time if I remember correctly. I wanted one badly but I couldn't afford it. Some time passes and I walk in to another store I traded with all the time. They had a "Shadow of the Beast II" demo disk running in the store on the A1000. I asked them to see some more. The tech showed a couple HAM pictures to me along with a few other demo's and I was hooked. On my next trip down to their store I brought most of my C64 stuff and traded up to the same Amiga 1000 I watched the demos on. I still have that non-playable SOTB II demo floppy, they just left it in the machine. This particular 1000 doesn't need a Kickstart disk as it has eproms in the extra sockets. I still have it along with lots of other classics. At the time I also had an amber mono 286 PC. I remember thinking how much further ahead my new Amiga was than my PC at the time, it blew me away!

Over the years I bought a Spirit Technologies HDA-506 RLL hard drive controller and a Spirit X-Ram card for them (I no longer have these expansions). Now the nicest one I have is equipped with a FFV2 Vga adapter (I made a special PCB to relocate it), an Mtec 020 board with 4 megs of ram (I also had to make a special relocation PCB for this), a Kickstart adapter board from DJBase, an AdIDE board hooked up to a 512m CF card, and an A1060 Sidecar (also completely gone through).

Since I put this together I have also purchased a pair of the blank GB-1000 PCB's during the run on here a couple years back. I still need to find someone to do the SMT stuff on one of those for me.  Many memorable years and LOTS of enjoyment.
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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 03:58:43 AM »
Finally bought a 1000 a few months ago from the original owner. All I've done so far is take it apart and clean it and put it back together. It's a beauty, near mint. Sadly it's still sitting in the middle of the living room on the coffee table where I was cleaning it, I haven't even turned it on yet. I need to build a computer table to fit into a small nook of the house I will locate it at. That probably won't happen for a few months more ...

The 1000 was the first Amiga I ever saw in the flesh and indeed it impressed the hell out of me. Always wanted one, couldn't afford it back then. I always thought it looked great too. Taking it apart it was neat to see it was made in Japan, I didn't know that.
 

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 04:20:45 AM »
The A1000 was my first Amiga, I bought it when KS/WB1.1 was just released and immediately bought Deluxe Paint and Archon. At the time only Electronic Arts was supporting the system. The Fish Disks were a godsend. It was probably the most expanede
Within 6 months I had Sold my C64, 1541, C128, 1571 and 1702. Scribble was a far better word processor than Paperclip.
 It was probably the most expanded A1000 anyone had ever seen with a Rejuvinator Board, KS 3.1, 4MB RAM (2 Comspec AX1000 Boards), SCSI Controller (Comspec SA1000) an External SCSI Tower with 2 Hard Drives, Yamaha CD-ROM and Syquest 88MB Removable Drive. I also had a Lucas 68020 Accelerator but never got it working.
 I used it A1000 until 1995 when I was forced to Switch to a PC because of the Software Company I worked for.
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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 04:27:01 AM »
So tell us about your 1000 experiences.

Did you own one "back in the day"?

Yeah, i had several Amiga 1000 back in the day.


Did you buy one later in life (past the heyday of amiga's)?


Well, many A1000s past with my hands, but i always had.


What attracted you to it back then? What parts didn't you like?

Was the first Amiga i had. You know, later was released the A500/A2000, if you wanted any Amiga, there was no option. Just A1000. Has a cool design for that time, you know, the keyboard storage  its a nice feature.
No audio filter, the serial port its inverted. You need start with a Kickstart Disk.


If you bought one years later, what attracted you?

I keep my A1000, but nowdays, the Amiga 1000 has a historical Value, becouse was the first Amiga ever made. The creators  signatures inside the case, its a nice remembrance. The A1000 has great manufactoring quality.
Something anecdodotal, in the A1000 its, when you turn on, and put high  the monitor volume, you will hear any sympathetic sound, something like " tu ru ru ru"

Did you expand them? Use it "raw" ? What did you do on it back then? Today?

Yeah, back in time, i had everything for the A1000, memory expansions, Modems, chip kickstart, external Disk Drive, hard drive, and other things i cant remember.

In fact, i still have two Amiga 1000. One of theses with 1.2 Kickstart Rom and Hard disk, and other, standard or stock with 256k front memory expansion, (512kb total) both with the Amiga 1010 external Disk Drive, offcourse.

I play sometimes in any of these A1000 some disk games. Its a nice Amiga model.
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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 05:09:12 AM »
If I remember right I picked up a 1000 because I read the composite out was color on them , but black and white on the 500 I already had after a couple weeks of it setting my nephew asked if he could use it and he did from about 1992 until he graduated. So last Christmas my brother shows up and says here is that Amiga 1000 you let us borrow. Now I am just wondering what to do with it. Any Suggestions?
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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 06:30:36 AM »
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If I remember right I picked up a 1000 because I read the composite out was color on them , but black and white on the 500 I already had after a couple weeks of it setting my nephew asked if he could use it and he did from about 1992 until he graduated. So last Christmas my brother shows up and says here is that Amiga 1000 you let us borrow. Now I am just wondering what to do with it. Any Suggestions?


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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 06:50:54 AM »
I remember a computer store down my the movie theatre me and my buddies used to frequent as teenagers.  One day after the Saturday afternoon movie, I wandered in there and they had an Amiga 1000 side by side with an Atari ST.

I fiddled around with the ST for a bit, then the A1000 caught my eye.  Needless to say I was in love, heh.  I simply couldn't figure out why anyone in their right mind would buy that ST with the A1000 being right beside it, lol.  Was a few years after that before I was able to get my hands on an Amiga, which was my first A3000 16 mhz machine.  

Needless to say I got hooked on them and had a half dozen Amiga systems before C+ folded up, which forced me to the PC side of things.
 

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 12:20:46 PM »
Quote from: runequester;700613
Just finished reading a bunch of scans old amiga magazines, and it got me thinking about one of the few amiga models I have never seen in person: the Amiga 1000.


So tell us about your 1000 experiences.

Did you own one "back in the day"?
Did you buy one later in life (past the heyday of amiga's)?

What attracted you to it back then? What parts didn't you like?

If you bought one years later, what attracted you?

Did you expand them? Use it "raw" ? What did you do on it back then? Today?

HI,

My first Amiga was an Amiga 1000, purchased it two weeks after it hit the market, the reason why was because my old cpm computer an Otrana (something like a Kaypro) which was modified with an 8088 board so that I had a dual boot system to CPM or MSDOS 1.0 decided to die. I needed a new system, since I was doing programming both for the USN and for the banks and Credit Unions. My original idea was to get a Radio Shack Sensation, or a generic. Well I usually purchased Computer Shopper and noticed that they were talking about a fantastic new computer called an Amiga, read the story and it caught my interest, so I waddled down to the old computer store that I usually bothered, and asked them if they heard of it, the dealer said yes and he was expecting one in by 2pm that day, so it was a weekend so I waited there till he got it and we both anxiously set it up. Well disappointment, it didn't run MSDOS and ran some stupid system called Amiga DOS. I frowned and said hey how about that new 286 generic your supposed to get in, he said in about two weeks. So off I left, came back in two weeks to look at the new 286, then looked at the Amiga again, but now it had something else on it, a trial version of the transformer, this really caught my interest, a computer with a software emulator, it was slow, but it would let me run "C" Lotus 123, and Dbase II. My dealer said that yeah the emulator "Transformer" was slow, but he had heard of a rumor of something called a sidecar being built at Commodore in Germany. He said it would probably be faster than the 286. So I took a chance and bought it, the dealer knowing me quite well took my order for Transformer so that when it finally came out I would have it, and being the nice guy that he was he gave me a copy of the demo which worked quite well for not being finished. TADA end of story of why I purchased an Amiga.

My first thoughts of the Amiga after I set it up, and tried using it was, "WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP" it didn't know what C: was, or copy *.*, and didn't even know copy*.bat or anything like that. What the hello was this DF0: crap, and man you had to write a book in order to copy a file. I was completely befuddled and lost the first day I used it, being the weekend I was up all night trying to figure out this totally stupid computer. Why didn't I take it back, well when you booted up the transformer I was back in familiar terror a tory.
It worked well and allowed me to get my work done for Monday morning, thats right people when you are a programmer you have deadlines, and eight hour days forget it. Weekends just another work day.

Well what won me over with the Amiga, the say command, I wrote a little batch file that used the clock and said "Wake UP A$$ whole" and repeated it until I hit the left Amiga key to shut it off. Wow I had got two things for the price of one, a stupid mis aligned computer that didn't follow MSDOS guide lines, and an expensive alarm clock all in one. My only thought on Monday was to return it, and get that 286, so on Monday I went back in to my favorite computer store, carrying my overpriced alarm clock, and said "hey Al take this computer and shove it were the sun don't shine, can't use it for anything" then he showed me two new programs for it, "VIP" and "DBman" and a fish "C" program, he had Commodore C but it was rather expensive at the time, but I purchased it two months later.

So back home I went with the Amiga, I had my new Transformer 1.2, VIP, and DBman. Everything was sweet, I was finishing my programming projects on time, and they all worked in the MSDOS world. Life was good, and I was slowly learning Amiga DOS. Then I purchased a game called "Arctic Fox" good grief excellent music, cannon sounds, and graphics. This piece of crap could finally do something good, but then Amiga Dos 1.1 came out and Arctic Fox didn't work anymore, I had to use 1.0 to use it. I contacted "Electronic Farts" dozens of times, always got put on hold and always got some dizzy broad that said just use 1.0 to make it run, that was what the Amiga was about, you could change kickstarts at the drop of a hat. This worked until I put in more memory, and a hard drive.

I bought the Supra hard drive, and a 5 meg hard drive, and 2 meg of memory for the memory board (a seperate board purchase) I still have it out in the garage, it was one that had long pins on it and plugged into the mother board on the A1000, I also purchased the allegra memory expansion so I had a whopping 4 megs of memory, and also had purchased a 10 meg scsi, so now I had a 5 meg and 10 meg hard drive. Later on after I had moved my A1000 inards into a Xerox printing case, I had 6 scsi drives, 4 megs of memory, a 68020 accelerator, 4 floppies, 5 pc power supplies to power the scsi's and a modem all together in one case. Then I had 6 switches on the front panel, so that I could control which hard drives to turn on or off and to control the modem on or off.  This unit had the most flexibility, of any computer I have ever owned.

Sad Day,

When we moved from Florida, up to damn yankee land in Pennsyltucky, my wife called and asked me what to do with my old computers in the garage, I thought she was talking about my 2 Packard Bells, HP's and 3 old generics, so I told her put them out in the trash, forgetting about my C64, C128 and Amiga 1000. Well she stacked them up for the trash truck, but someone came by and grabbed all those computers. My beloved original piece of crap Amiga 1000 was gone. I still have the kickstart disks, and all the version's of Amiga Dos that was ever made for the A1000. This computer was moded all the way, I could copy just about any copy protected disk by dumping memory by pressing a push button switch on the front panel. I could also make duplicate copies with the 4 floppies, and also transfer programs from memory to hard drive. I learned little tricks like dumping the copy protected disk from mem to hard drive then copying the other disks to that directory giving me an unprotected game. It was probably the best and versitle Amiga I have ever owned. It weighed over 55 lbs, in that Xerox case with everything I had put into it. The only thing I really missed about the original case, was the keyboard garage, I loved that feature, but I put it on the side of the Xerox case, in a home made garage port.

Well I hope I bored you all to death, have fun and figure out how to mod your Amiga.

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 12:54:45 PM »
Quote from: runequester;700613

Did you own one "back in the day"?
Did you buy one later in life (past the heyday of amiga's)?
What attracted you to it back then? What parts didn't you like?
If you bought one years later, what attracted you?
Did you expand them? Use it "raw" ? What did you do on it back then? Today?


No. Back then I had A500 and only knew about later models.
Yes, couple of years ago.
It looks adorable. Nothing beats 'pizzabox' and desktop case.
It had 256K expansion. I bought A590 and Alfapower (for A500 too).
I did nothing, just tried a game and one of those hdds. iirc, A590 wouldn't work (did the internal PSU hack and they say A1000 has weak PSU..).
I was a bit dissapointed that composite looks worse (has some well known bug) and that its so difficult to upgrade it. (my plan, ever since I bought it, has been to install KS ROM and some RAM)
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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 02:30:58 PM »
I got my A1000 back in 1986.  I was working on my first job out of college and could finally afford a computer of my own.  At work we had an IBM PC XT with Lotus 123 and some word processor I don't remember.  So I went into a computer store intending to buy a PC-compatible.  They had an Amiga 1000 on display and a couple demos running.  I compared it to a Leading Edge XT compatible.  For the same price as the monochrome monitored Leading Edge, I could get the A1000 with the RGB Color monitor.  So a couple months later I took the plunge.

With my A1000, I got the 1080 High Resolution color monitor, the A1010 External 3.5 drive, the 256KB Front Panel RAM expansion.  They had a promotion, so I got TextCraft and GraphicCraft for free.  I also purchased DeluxePaint and EA Seven Cities of Gold.  I also purchased the 5.25" External drive with Transformer package to run DOS programs.

Over time, I got DeluxeMusic, Prowrite, a Supra 2400 modem, an Allegra 2MB Expansion module (which I later upgraded to 8GB).  I have all the Kickstarts from 1.0 to 1.3.

I used it mainly for Music composition with DeluxeMusic, CZar, a MIDI interface and a Casio CZ101 synth.  I also used it for Desktop publishing with ProPage and Pagestream and an AST PS Turbolaser.  I spent countless hours tweaking and customizing it with all sorts of freeware and shareware utilities.  I joined GENIE BBS.  I also belonged to a local user group, PAUG, which had its own BBS.

Eventually, I upgraded to an A2000 when it became easier and cheaper to upgrade (ie Hard Drive, and Accelerator).  But I've kept the A1000 all these years.

The Amigas are the most productive computers I've ever owned.  Today's PC's are mostly time wasters.  I use them for surfing the net, playing movies and music.  Besides some websites I've built and managed, I don't create much.

Today, I still mess around with my classics once in a while.  Also, I have alot of fun with some NG Amigas, mainly AROS, which is really coming along (I actually posted here using an AROS machine).  Also, I've been playing around with Commodore OS, which despite some of the detractors here, is actually pretty nice.  It's actually a Linus distro, but a really nice one which is set up to emulate the old C64/128 and Amiga computers.  It has alot of Amiga type games and software too.
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A1000 - 2 Floppies, 2 MB RAM, OS 1.0-1.3
A500 - 170 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, OS 1.3/2.04
A2000 - 350 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, A2630, OS 2.04
A2500 - 540 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, A2630, OS 3.9
A1200 - 20 GB HD, 64 MB RAM, Blizzard IV
Amithlon - 49 GB HD, 768 MB RAM, PIII-1G
AROS - 80 GB HD, 2 GB RAM, P4-3.2GHz
 

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 02:39:22 PM »
I got my A1000 back in 1986.  I was working on my first job out of college and could finally afford a computer of my own.  At work we had an IBM PC XT with Lotus 123 and some word processor I don't remember.  So I went into a computer store intending to buy a PC-compatible.  They had an Amiga 1000 on display and a couple demos running.  I compared it to a Leading Edge XT compatible.  For the same price as the monochrome monitored Leading Edge, I could get the A1000 with the RGB Color monitor.  So a couple months later I took the plunge.

With my A1000, I got the 1080 High Resolution color monitor, the A1010 External 3.5 drive, the 256KB Front Panel RAM expansion.  They had a promotion, so I got TextCraft and GraphicCraft for free.  I also purchased DeluxePaint and EA Seven Cities of Gold.  I also purchased the 5.25" External drive with Transformer package to run DOS programs.

Over time, I got DeluxeMusic, Prowrite, a Supra 2400 modem, an Allegra 2MB Expansion module (which I later upgraded to 8GB).  I have all the Kickstarts from 1.0 to 1.3.

I used it mainly for Music composition with DeluxePaint, a MIDI interface and a Casio CZ101 synth.  I also used it for Desktop publishing with ProPage and Pagestream and an AST PS Turbolaser.  I spent countless hours tweaking and customizing it with all sorts of freeware and shareware utilities.  I joined GENIE BBS.  I also belonged to a local user group, PAUG, which had its own BBS.

Eventually, I upgraded to an A2000 when it became easier and cheaper to upgrade (ie Hard Drive, and Accelerator).  But I've kept the A1000 all these years.

The Amigas are the most productive computers I've ever owned.  Today's PC's are mostly time wasters.  I use them for surfing the net, playing movies and music.  Besides some websites I've built and managed, I don't create much.

Today, I still mess around with my classics once in a while.  Also, I have alot of fun with some NG Amigas, mainly AROS, which is really coming along (I actually posted here using an AROS machine).  Also, I've been playing around with Commodore OS, which despite some of the detractors here, is actually pretty nice.  It's actually a Linus distro, but a really nice one which is set up to emulate the old C64/128 and Amiga computers.  It has alot of Amiga type games and software too.
A1000 - 2 Floppies, 2 MB RAM, OS 1.0-1.3
A500 - 170 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, OS 1.3/2.04
A2000 - 350 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, A2630, OS 2.04
A2500 - 540 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, A2630, OS 3.9
A1200 - 20 GB HD, 64 MB RAM, Blizzard IV
Amithlon - 49 GB HD, 768 MB RAM, PIII-1G
AROS - 80 GB HD, 2 GB RAM, P4-3.2GHz
 

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 04:08:17 PM »
Really wanted one back in the day, but couldn't afford it.
When I got my first Amiga, it was the A500..
Always wanted the A1000 tho, and finally got one a year or so ago..

Pretty beat up..  It needs lots of TLC...
It came with an Insider II with an extra 1.5M FAST RAM (and the extra 256k front RAM).

Unfortunately, the internal floppy drive was fairly unhappy.

Fortunately, a drive from an external A1010 fit nicely.

Unfortunately, it fit in such a way that the Insider II no longer would fit over the CPU.

Fortunately, I got a tomthul 4M FAST RAM expansion that DOES fit.  ;-)

So, now I have a mostly happy A1000 with 4M fast and a sidecar (again tomthul) dual IDE/CF card hard drive setup.  (2 CF cards, the first is Workbench and Data and the second is a FAT32 card)

Why "mostly happy?"  Well, this A1000 has had a good, but hard life..

The keyboard mostly works.  Caps lock doesn't (it does flash when booting).  Most keys are much better than when I first got it..
The RCA audio jacks need to be replaced (does anyone know if there are part numbers I can use to find those??  Are they standard??).

The only drawback I see to the A1000, compared to the A500 is CHIP RAM.
It's 512k and that's it.  It's relatively easy to get an A500 to have more CHIP.

Other than that, I much prefer the A1000's  look and feel.
And that keyboard cubby?  Awesome!!!

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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 06:32:47 PM »
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So tell us about your 1000 experiences.


Well, I bought my A1000 new, back in the day. I'd been an Atari 8-bit guy for a long time, but we kept hearing rumors of this new "Lorraine" or "Amiga" that could do "Saturday morning cartoon" level animation. I knew that I wanted one.

Eventually I expanded the 1000 with a Phoenix Toolbox 2-slot Zorro II adapter and a DKB Kwikstart ROM board. I used a CBM 2058 ram board in the phoenix box. With a recoverable ram disk, it was almost like having a HD, until I could afford a "giant" 40 mB hd. ;-)
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Re: Tell us about your Amiga 1000 experiences
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 06:34:35 PM »
Do you remember what you paid for that 40 meg HD? :)

I remember reading articles of a 20 meg drive being advertised as "basically unlimited storage"