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Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« on: July 14, 2012, 11:16:00 AM »
Just lately people have been exited about aros/aeros/broadway10 coming to pi.
How much potential does this hardware offer.

 http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ODROID-X-Raspberry-Pi-Quad-Core-Buy-Online,news-39078.html

Also does it offer possibilities for os4 ????
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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 11:20:17 AM »
N.B    I think the above  review understates how good the pi is, and is so much more than just only educational device  for kids !!!

Here's the manufacturer's webpage:-


http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php
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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2012, 11:43:58 AM »
Quote from: Holmes;700062
Also does it offer possibilities for os4 ????

No, it's ARM and not PPC.
 

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2012, 11:48:44 AM »
The Rpi is fantastic for running simple, light altearnative OSes. RiscOS for example runs great!

People tend to load a heavy, unoptimized Linux distro souch as Debian and say "this hardware is slow: it's crap!". But that's a stupid thing to do with a device as the Rpi, in my opinion.
Just test Risc OS on it and you'll understand what I say.

AROS people can chose to ignore the Pi, but even then it will become a Risc OS platform, with Aemulor providing native 26-bit software execution, i.e great Accorn Archimedes programs, demos and games, and AROS will have lost a GREAT opportunity to expand into new, cheap, fixed hardware.
 

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 12:00:00 PM »
Support for floating point hardware on the pi is close to being released.
Let's hope this quells the moaning !!

This will be in the form of rasbian (an optimised version of Debian)


Looking forward to having the pi, when it's sold with a case.
Then aeros, and an Archimedes emulator will be exciting.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2012, 12:24:57 PM »
I think it is less powerful than my cellphone and harder to transport.  Pass.
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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2012, 01:04:25 PM »
Quote from: tone007;700067
I think it is less powerful than my cellphone and harder to transport.  Pass.


You see? This kind of comments (specially funny when they are in a retro-computing frum) are an example of what I said. This "I can't tell a computer from a car" kind of comparission is seen very often.
 

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2012, 02:22:33 PM »
I think it could be slower than a phone, but possibly it could be cheaper !!!

And possibly the running cost's might be cheaper too !!!
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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2012, 04:00:11 PM »
Nice find, but:
- no Linux (yet) - you're stuck with Android for the time being
- from the Odroid web site:
"HDMI can support only 720p/1080p resolution with 16:9 wide display. HDMI-DVI converter will not work properly because Exynos4 HDMI is not compatible with VESA standard. So most of old PC monitors can't be used."
(http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931&tab_idx=3)

This is clearly aimed at developers of Android devices rather than hobbyists. If Raspberry PI is too underpowered for you and you're ready to pay in that price range, I think you'll be better off with the likes of Beagleboard or Pandaboard because of the community, wide selection of OSs and support.
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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2012, 04:25:57 PM »
Quote from: tone007;700067
I think it is less powerful than my cellphone and harder to transport.  Pass.


It costs less than your cellphone!
 

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 05:28:36 PM »
If you can find one of them:
http://www.genesi-tech.com/products/efika

You can be happy.
Good Linux performance. AEROS ARM was don on it with helo of Genesi.

Performance is much better. Case is good. It comes with Wifi. Two USB ports.
Ethernet too. 8GB SSD (not the fastest but betters than SD-card).
 

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 03:19:12 AM »
Dead end toy.
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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2012, 09:59:55 AM »
I bought a Pi. It is small and sexy.
A geek toy, that it is not ready for the educational market.
The hardware is very picky on keyboards and SD cards.

My kids wont touch it, they argue it is slow and boring :(
 

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2012, 12:01:05 PM »
Quote from: Gulliver;700189

My kids wont touch it, they argue it is slow and boring :(


You're doing it wrong.

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Re: Coments anyone (in ref to pi)
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2012, 12:04:05 PM »
Kids are dumb. Just stick a neon light somewhere on it and they will love the thing. Extra points if you can get it to flash.
Even my cat doesn\'t like me.