Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060

[XDelusion]

That's an easy one to fix, just find FBlit in your C folder and change it's attributes to executable.

Are you using RemApollo yet, that made the biggest difference to my system.

Nova: Just saw your post here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=493925


If I set it to executable, it will shut it up during boot time, but I still can not double click it and launch it (just like SysSpeed), and if I try to execute it via CLI it will tell me it is not an executable there as well.

[NovaCoder]

Nova: Just saw your post here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=493925


If I set it to executable, it will shut it up during boot time, but I still can not double click it and launch it (just like SysSpeed), and if I try to execute it via CLI it will tell me it is not an executable there as well.

Hiya,

Yep like I said it's not setup correctly when you install it (don't know why), you have to find the program in you C folder (using WB) then click on it and open up the information and tick the executable attribute.

Don't try and execute FBlit by double clicking on it, just stick it the startup like I have my version I sent to you and you should be all good.

BTW, I don't think you should install MCP or BlazeWCP.

[XDelusion]

I have done this, but from what I understood you are supposed to launch FBlit at least once via Icon so that you can open up the config menu and save your config file to ENV.

Anyhow, now that FBlit is set as Executable, I tried to load it via CLI and it tells me that FBlitGUI is not an executable. If I set it to Executable and try to run FBlit via command line, I get a Reboot or Suspend option.

ALso I don't think FBLit is working (even though setting it to Executable made it stop complaining at boot time) because my memory is not freeing up yet.

Hiya,

Yep like I said it's not setup correctly when you install it (don't know why), you have to find the program in you C folder (using WB) then click on it and open up the information and tick the executable attribute.

Don't try and execute FBlit by double clicking on it, just stick it the startup like I have my version I sent to you and you should be all good.

BTW, I don't think you should install MCP or BlazeWCP.

[XDelusion]

Hmmm, it must be working cause FText seems to be working.

Strange, I seem to recall having more memory left after a basic install. Nothing else has been included at startup yet.

And I forgot that SysSpeed requires MUI, that's why it isn't working.

Back to Fblit though, isn't it supposed to have an extra file that goes into prefs?

[stefcep2]

MCP, BlazeWCP, fblit, ftext modify major system functions and can conflict with one another.  Back in the day I spent ages with them, I've forgotten more than I remember but there is a lot of guess work in order to get a stable system when patching things like this.  Thats the trade off for a faster system.  

In the end I actually wanted my A1200 to work without feeling I'm playing Russian roulette, and I just used the latest 060 library and the HSmathslibs, with reduce colors and resolutions.

[XDelusion]

MCP, BlazeWCP, fblit, ftext modify major system functions and can conflict with one another.  Back in the day I spent ages with them, I've forgotten more than I remember but there is a lot of guess work in order to get a stable system when patching things like this.  Thats the trade off for a faster system.  

In the end I actually wanted my A1200 to work without feeling I'm playing Russian roulette, and I just used the latest 060 library and the HSmathslibs, with reduce colors and resolutions.

I have ditched most of those, now I'm trying to use a Drap, RemApollo, HSMathLibs 060, CPU60, CMQ060, FBlit, FText, Visual Prefs, FPPrefs, combo. Having much trouble thus far.

[stefcep2]

I have the Apollo 68060 card as well.  It can take a long time working out what works and what doesn't.  IMO too long.

My advice to anyone starting on a fresh system would be to get one of the classicWB packs which has many of these patches already installed and playing well with each other, in addition to a bunch of other utilities you didn't think you needed but you find indispensibe later.

OFF topic: why when I login I do log in for an instant but then get I the vBulletin login page saying I'm not loggged in.  I can't quote posts, but can reply like I am now.

[NovaCoder]

I have ditched most of those, now I'm trying to use a Drap, RemApollo, HSMathLibs 060, CPU60, CMQ060, FBlit, FText, Visual Prefs, FPPrefs, combo. Having much trouble thus far.

Hiya probably best to setup your system in this order (obviously check that everything is working for each stage):

1) Install PFS3 (060)
2) Install 3.9 + BB1 & BB2 (do not install BB3/BB4)
3) Install basic RemApollo + Drap
4) Start adding modules to RemApollo (eg updated System libraries, Blizkick modules, HSMATH LIBS)
5) Install any other patches you need (as few as possible), (eg FBlit, FText etc).

[XDelusion]

Hiya probably best to setup your system in this order (obviously check that everything is working for each stage):

1) Install PFS3 (060)
2) Install 3.9 + BB1 & BB2 (do not install BB3/BB4)
3) Install basic RemApollo + Drap
4) Start adding modules to RemApollo (eg updated System libraries, Blizkick modules, HSMATH LIBS)
5) Install any other patches you need (as few as possible), (eg FBlit, FText etc).

Getting there slowly but surely. I'm already seeing speed increases and I'm getting more and more memory back, sadly BOOM no longer works for me. Hasn't since I first installed OS 3.9. :/

[XDelusion]

Nova: How did you go about installing your HSMathLibs 060? I noticed in the example you sent that you used it as a Module...

That aside, I am now able to use your Starup-Sequence.

Now to get BOOM working again...

...the whole point of doing this in the first place.

[paul1981]

This is an interesting thread, I've got the same setup and of course I'm always chasing more speed.

Things I want to try out:

Piru's exec44 (using RemApollo)
Cosmos 8060.library

Also what is the best 060 library to use for example I also wanted to give MuLib package on Aminet and try but I thought you had to use the patched v60.10 library with RemApollo?

No, the MULib package replaces the Apollo 68060.library (or Blizzard for that matter), so it's not needed at all. I've used MuLib package for years and I can highly recommend it.

I haven't tried the exec44. Can I use that with Workbench3.1? Or is it OS3.9 only? What kind of a speed gain could I expect with Piru's exec anyone?

[NovaCoder]

Hiya,

Had a play with all of this last night.

Tried the MMU libs 060 (+mmu.library), seem to be stable but they also seemed to run Quake slower than than standard (patched) Apollo libs, also not sure how compatible it is with RemapApollo.  I might still try to use them to create a 3.1 boot floppy to run some demos that don't seem to get on with my standard 3.9 setup.

I also built the exec v44.1 but it only comes as a 3.1 complete rom image (which you can't seem to split for some reason), this is no good for me because I'm running RemapApollo with 3.9 and patching the built in 3.1 rom image with the Boing bag updates (loaded as modules).   I'm not even sure if it's such a great idea to run v44.1 exec.library if you are running 3.9.

I updated my CopyMem 060 patches to the faster version listed in this thread.  This didn't effect the frame-rate in Quake though, even running without any memory copy patches doesn't seem to have any real-world effect?

Also tried Cosmos's updated Apollo 060 library, so far no problems with it and it's maybe a little bit quicker too.

Didn't try the updated memory allocation routines from Chris Hodges (also mentioned in this thread) because it seems that they are less useful if you are running 3.9 + bb2 (which has updated memory allocation code).

[matthey]

Tried the MMU libs 060 (+mmu.library), seem to be stable but they also seemed to run Quake slower than than standard (patched) Apollo libs, also not sure how compatible it is with RemapApollo.  I might still try to use them to create a 3.1 boot floppy to run some demos that don't seem to get on with my standard 3.9 setup.

With the Mu 68060.library I use this line in my S:Startup-Sequence

MuFastZero MOVESSP ON

This makes the Mu 68060.library a little faster (instead of a little slower) than most other 68060 libraries. It is less compatible with a few very old programs.

I also built the exec v44.1 but it only comes as a 3.1 complete rom image (which you can't seem to split for some reason), this is no good for me because I'm running RemapApollo with 3.9 and patching the built in 3.1 rom image with the Boing bag updates (loaded as modules).   I'm not even sure if it's such a great idea to run v44.1 exec.library if you are running 3.9.

Piru's exec.library is missing some functions that are necessary for AmigaOS 3.9.

I updated my CopyMem 060 patches to the faster version listed in this thread.  This didn't effect the frame-rate in Quake though, even running without any memory copy patches doesn't seem to have any real-world effect?

CopyMem060 isn't much faster than CMQ060. The only time the speed difference might be noticeable would be a lot of small copies in a short amount of time. You do save a little memory over CMQ060. The patch is worth running on a 68060 over the AmigaOS 3.9 copy functions. If you want to "see" the difference, scroll around in a newer version of AWeb with and without CopyMem060 installed .

If you have a Warp3D compatible gfx card, let me know. I have some patches that will speed up GLQuake by a few frames. You might try MuRedox/OxyPatcher with other Quakes and see if it's any faster.

[NovaCoder]

Cool, thanks for the info

Nope no GFX card for me, I've only got AGA and I'm running my own port of Quake.

[XDelusion]

Cool, thanks for the info

Nope no GFX card for me, I've only got AGA and I'm running my own port of Quake.

Nova: Do you recall what steps you took installing HSMathLibs? RemApollo isn't mentioned during the install process. Do I choose the Blizzard option then just patch the Modules? I can't seem to run RemApollo with the ones you supplied me so I'm trying to install them my self. Currently I have HSMathLibs installed using the default method.

[NovaCoder]

Nova: Do you recall what steps you took installing HSMathLibs? RemApollo isn't mentioned during the install process. Do I choose the Blizzard option then just patch the Modules? I can't seem to run RemApollo with the ones you supplied me so I'm trying to install them my self. Currently I have HSMathLibs installed using the default method.

It took me a few goes to get it right, I remember that much

I think I went for the 'other' option then copied them manually.   I'll have a look when I get a second to see how I did it if you like.