Screen resize slowdown 80Mhz 060

[bbond007]

I got my 80Mhz 060 back from Poland. It is quick as can be, but...

When ever I am in double scan mode or have another program like Ocamed ss open, the screen dragging process becomes slow and cumbersom.

Anyone know what causes this?

If you had a Indivision MK2 or some other sort of flickerfixer. You could run in interlace mode which will be more than twice as fast. It is with Shapeshifter anyway... Interlace mode runs 1X mac quadra 950 speed where as multiscan mode runs about half that and seems to really drag...

[bbond007]

Double PAL/NTSC will use double chip bandwidth, so deeper screens (>16 colors) may become really slow, regardless of CPU speed.

Displaying a Double PAL (or Superhires) screen with 256 colors will use up ALL available bandwidth in the scanline. Any screen manipulation by CPU or blitter can only happen during the rather brief horizontal and vertical blanking periods.

oops, already said... totally agree...

[Damion]

Just took a look at the 3.9 install for my Apollo, which I spent quite a bit of time fine-tuning a few years back.

One annoying thing with this card is that exec.library always ends up in chipram, which isn't optimal and slows things down a bit. You can get around this by using MuMove4k and MuFastZero from the MMULib archive, and/or using Piru's exec44 loaded via RemApollo. The nice thing about RemApollo is that it's compatible with some of the excellent BlizKick modules. SpeedyIDE is useful if you're not using Doobrey's scsi.device or IDEFix. With my 80MHz Apollo, I was getting about 5 MB/s raw read with an IDE-Fix express, better than most '030 cards which are usually fastest due to better chipset access.

You can also use RemApollo to load some updated OS components (like Doobrey's patched scsi.device), or use ROMSplit and Remus to compile your own custom ROM with everything already added, then re-kick the ROM image with RemApollo, or burn it. And don't forget about TLSFmem.

Ultimately, if you're like me you can spend most of your time on the Amiga tweaking and benchmarking the OS, without actually using it to run programs or do anything useful. :-o

-edit- Though not strictly related to the Apollo, Peter Keunecke's icon library is an absolute must-have IMHO. Speeds up icon loading tremendously, not to mention a ton of other great features.

[matthey]

OK, so MCP and SYSPeed don't play well together.

With MCP I get the lower read out, without it I get:

MIPS: 104.27
MFLOPS: 42.05

Though without it BOOM runs like crap.

I presume MCP is working as it should and is only causing SYSPeed to produce an incorrect reading?

Here is the order in which our lord and savior Franko suggested for my startup-sequence:

Startup-Sequence order after setpatch:

C:Cmq060
C:blazeWCP
C:fblit
C:ftext
C:mcp

MCP may patch over CMQ060's exec.library/CopyMem() and exec.library/CopyMemQuick() patches with much inferior code. There are some test results with how poor the CMQ CopyMem patches are for the 68060 here:

http://aminet.net/util/boot/CopyMem.readme

CopyMem060 is a little faster than Piru's new CMQ060 for the 68060:

http://aminet.net/util/boot/CopyMem.lha

MCP may interfere with or patch over other improved patches as exec.library/SetPatch() has no way of preventing or arbitrating new patches from patching over the same functions. The newer MCP versions are for UAE and the older ones are outdated. It's nice to have all the patches in one that can be selectively enabled and disabled but MCP isn't worth the trouble anymore in my opinion.

[XDelusion]

RemApollo says I have the wrong version of the 060 Lib. Where do I get the right one?

[AmiDude]

RemApollo says I have the wrong version of the 060 Lib. Where do I get the right one?

You need 68060.library v60.10 by Z. Urwani. First you need the Apollo060.dms archive which contains v60.02 of the library. Then you need the 68060 patch from the RemApollo archive to update to the final v60.10 version.

[AmiDude]

RemApollo says I have the wrong version of the 060 Lib. Where do I get the right one?

You need 68060.library v60.10 by Z. Urwani. First you need the Apollo060.dms archive which contains v60.02 of the library. Then you need the 68060 patch from the RemApollo archive to update to the final v60.10 version.

@ XDelusion

No thanks, huh?! People are so ungrateful these days. Don't ask for help next time, dude!
:madashell:

[XDelusion]

@ XDelusion

No thanks, huh?! People are so ungrateful these days. Don't ask for help next time, dude!
:madashell:

Sorry?

Been busy man, have not had a chance to get back to this till now. Will post my results.

Thankx!

[Cosmos Amiga]

You need 68060.library v60.10 by Z. Urwani. First you need the Apollo060.dms archive which contains v60.02 of the library. Then you need the 68060 patch from the RemApollo archive to update to the final v60.10 version.

Anyone know Z. Urwani ?

I found a big bug into ex_afterUser_060 : it's not jsr but jmp


If anyone know this guys, please, send him this message. Thanks !

[AmiDude]

Anyone know Z. Urwani ?

I found a big bug into ex_afterUser_060 : it's not jsr but jmp


If anyone know this guys, please, send him this message. Thanks !

Is this bug causing big poblems? Because i don't have any issues with this library.
My A1260/80Mhz system is running stable for a couple of years now.

[Cosmos Amiga]

For me, it's a big bug : the routine previously pointed by a5 will run one time again, and in no-supervisor mode...

[Cosmos Amiga]

68060.library fixed : http://leblogdecosmos.blogspot.fr/2012/08/68060library-apollo.html

[XDelusion]

Alright, I am moved into my new home and back at this again.

I received my MKII in the mail yesterday so I decided to celebrate by giving OS 3.9 another go.

Well I installed 3.9 on 4 PFS formatted partitions. I installed both Boing Bags and just now tried to install FBlit again.

I put "C:FBlit"

In the line directly above BIND Drivers

But as fate would have it, start up tells me that FBlit is not an executable. Also when I double click it in within WB, nothing happens. No config menu, nothing.

Likewise, I installed Sysspeed, but it will not load either.

[NovaCoder]

But as fate would have it, start up tells me that FBlit is not an executable.

That's an easy one to fix, just find FBlit in your C folder and change it's attributes to executable.

Are you using RemApollo yet, that made the biggest difference to my system.

[NovaCoder]

This is an interesting thread, I've got the same setup and of course I'm always chasing more speed.

Things I want to try out:

Piru's exec44 (using RemApollo)
Cosmos 8060.library

Also what is the best 060 library to use for example I also wanted to give MuLib package on Aminet and try but I thought you had to use the patched v60.10 library with RemApollo?

[XDelusion]

That's an easy one to fix, just find FBlit in your C folder and change it's attributes to executable.

Are you using RemApollo yet, that made the biggest difference to my system.

Nova: Just saw your post here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=493925


If I set it to executable, it will shut it up during boot time, but I still can not double click it and launch it (just like SysSpeed), and if I try to execute it via CLI it will tell me it is not an executable there as well.