Most Amiga like experience on modern hardware

[tclay9214]

Hello All,
   I am interested in getting back into the Amiga platform after many years out of it.
   I have a fairly modern pc running Windows 7 and Ubuntu linux,also bought a power pc based Mac desktop in case I wanted to buy Morphos.
   I have tried Aros,the 30 minute trial of Morphos,winuae,Amiga Forever from Cloanto.
   What do you think offers the most Amiga like experience?
 I liked Morphos but the high cost is a deterrent right now,I'd like to set up a machine just for running Amiga software or as close as I can get to the real thing on modern hardware.
  Thanks for any suggestions.
Thomas

[OlafS3]

What do you mean by "Amiga Software" here? 68k?

[OlafS3]

You already know the options. When you do not want to pay money for licenses/new hardware there is only Amigaforever (at least not expensive), my 68k distribution based on Aros 68k and Aros X86

[bloodline]

AROS is the only way to go for modern hardware...

[smerf]

@tclay9214,

OK

Here I go to flame city again, but I likes it.

First I agree with bloodline, Aros looks the most promising if you like modern day equipment, but if you like old equipment, that you could possibly find at an old yard sale, for about $10 than MorphOS is for you.

Ok, I will eat my words saying I wouldn't take a Mac it they gave it to me, because I just bought one at a yard sale for $10, I possibly could got it for $5 dollars if I bargained more for it.

Now for the expensive part, buying MorphOS, is it worth 79 euro's or $99, Ubuntu is free, Windows 8 I heard will be $49 for those that have Windows 7, since I have been a regular customer with Cloanto's Amiga Forever, I believe if I remember correctly I paid $29 for AF2012, and AROS is free and uses modern day equipment.

After trying MorphOS for the past 2 days I found exactly like I thought, it has some use, like if you like the internet, OWB works, and it also plays Youtube videos. So that makes it one step above the original Amiga. As of yet I haven't figured out how to get an adf file to load, (Cloantos Amiga Forever loads them right up for did I say $29, and with MorphOS I have to jump through hoops for $99).

OK you wanted to know what system was best to run Amiga Stuff, well the Amiga does pretty good but to run some software I have to use degrader, switch to pal or NTSC, sometimes shut down memory, or take off the external drive. Now that is with an original Amiga. With Cloanto's Amiga Forever, I click on the adf file and away I go, if I do it right it will put up four disk drives and if the game uses four disks I don't have to worry about eject and reload, if I did it wrong then I have to insert the next disk just like on a single drive Amiga.

What I am trying to say is that Cloanto's Amiga Forever is better than an Amiga. Now if I had to measure them in order they would wind up in the following order.

1. Cloanto's Amiga Forever 2012
2. Amiga 4000, or A1200
3. AROS (could never get internet working, but that is my Toshiba's fault)
4. MorphOS very nice internet package, needs work on loading adf programs, and needs more ummmph!!! before I will spend $99 for it. OH YEAH!! faster booter of any OS out there, very nice even faster than my Amiga 1200,  AND THAT IS QUICK!!!

Still MorphOS running on old hardware, that people are throwing out, and selling at yard sales. You need to modernize. Even Apple dumped PPC. (Sorry have to give a fair view)

AROS -- nice package, installed on my Toshiba laptop and ran nicely for the programs you gave with the package, I gave up when I saw no internet, but once again the Toshiba Satellite has an odd internet driver.

Winner is Cloanto's Amiga Forever for $29, will gladly pay for a UAE package that has been beefed up this well.

Well will have to go, loading in Ubuntu on my MAC mini, I would like to give thanks to my friend Rob, for bringing home my Mac mini, that I had bought, setting it up and showing me OS X tiger, which is a bit more useful than MorphOS, and AROS. He also put the blue tooth adapter into the back of the mini, so that I wouldn't have to touch anything associated with the Mac mini, the blue tooth adapter went to a PC keyboard and mouse, which works perfectly with the Mac mini so I don't have to touch it. Now if I could only figure out where that smell of rotten apples is coming from.

smerf

[haywirepc]

I agree with bloodline. If you want a modern system that will run anything you want, you want aros, of course it depends a bit on what you want to do with it...  If your looking to run classic games and apps, I think amiga forever or AROS are the best choice.

Os4 and morphos will not run very demanding 68k games or demos without major frame skipping, sound problems and slow downs.

So if you want a system that will run any legacy amiga software, and also some modern apps, I think aros is the best choice.

[djos]

There is no direct linkage, but if you look at MacOS X it's imo very like what Amiga would have become had Commodore not imploded.

[XDelusion]

AROS is pretty cool and free, but lacking many key Amiga elements under the hood.

MorphOS felt very next gen Amiga to me, and it just had a price cut. It's kind of hard to fully explore within the time frame of the 30 minute demo, but once you really dive into it and throw some classic apps at it, I think you'll be pretty amazed. Though just make sure your Mac has more than 32Mb of GFX RAM or else you'll find yourself restricted in what all you can do.

I have heard OS 4 is coming along well, but is not yet as polished, stable, or cheap to run as MorphOS. Though I've never touched it so I'm not certain as to how good it is, but it does run classic apps like MorphOS so that has to count for something.


Last but not least there is Amithlon. It's tricky to get going, but when you do it pays off...

Very fast like MorohOS in regards to running classic apps.

[gaula92]

Most Amiga like experience on modern hardware??

That's an easy one: The Minimig. Modernd hardware, fast, easy to use and a compatibility level so high that you'll have a very hard time trying to find a game or demo that has any problem on it.

[whabang]

I'd like to put my flame-suit on and suggest trying one of the *NIXes- They're extremely adaptable, and can be made very Amiga-like if you enjoy tinkering.

If you want something that's allready out there, Aros is the way to go.

[gaula92]

As a Gentoo Linux user/lover for years, I must disagree.

Unix-like systems are NOT suited for the desktop. They are big, obscure, clumsy and hard to work with (and I mean OS-level work, not internet web-browsing or office productivity). You can, to a certain degree, get used to them and build a fast, somewhat light system taking Linux sources as a base (the Gentoo way is just an example), but it's NOT amiga-ish at all: it's just the opposite: the Amiga was conceived to be a desktop system, friendly and accessible right from the start.

However, with the advent of wayland-based distros, we *could* hope for faster, lighter Linux systems. But nowadays, any Linux distro (unles you build from sources and adapt it to your hardware/software requeriments), Unix-like is NOT amiga at all.

Closest hardware to Amiga is the Minimig (call it V1-1 original Minimig, FPGA arcade, Altera DE1 with the awesome chaos work or even Chameleon 64 core port): it IS amiga hardware capable of running true legacy Amiga software.

AROS is AmigaOS done right: open-sourced reimplementation. If you want an Amiga OS for non-commodore or FPGA hardware (I must insist you consider the second option if you want legacy software running perfect), then look no further: AROS is what you want.

Other OSes similar to the Amiga OS idea of accesibility and great response with a reasonable hard/soft integration are, imho, Risc OS (get your Risc OS computer for a low price, as it's compatible with the Beagleboard, Pandaboard and Raspberry Pi- yes it runs already on the Pi!), and Haiku (BeOS).

[matt3k]

If already you picked up a Mac to potentially run MOS, I would go that route and save for the OS in the meantime.

MOS has the best feeling of what Amiga OS is.  It is extremely fast, consistently evolved over many point releases, runs many 68k applications, and is the most polished over any other offering.  Feelings are emotions and therefore subjective, but to me MOS feels the most like Amiga.  To be fair I haven't personally used OS 4, but from the videos and comments it seems that it has a real flavor of 3.x 68k.  If you want love the classic Amiga feeling that would be your choice.  The entry price for OS4 on the latest HW isn't cheap though...

Good luck.

[gertsy]

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WinUAE of course

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[bloodline]

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WinUAE of course

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That's true, but you'll still need AROS to run it... Unless you have the original
Amiga ROMs from someplace

[gertsy]

That's true, but you'll still need AROS to run it... Unless you have the original
Amiga ROMs from someplace

Oh yes well there is that sure.  But apart from that what have the Romans ever done for us....?

Ohh! that's right; Amiga Forever : http://www.amigaforever.com/system/