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[partycentralpartygirl]

Dude, most Amiga users have fast PCs.

Just finished building a new gaming PC for my kid. He knows that consoles are for peasants and that PC gaming is for the master race of gamers.

It's funny because my 7 year old has the fastest rig in the house by far. :laughing:

[Bamiga2002]

Spoiled brat? :razz:

I still have me coreduo setup that's working good since 2006 .

[Thorham]

He knows that consoles are for peasants and that PC gaming is for the master race of gamers.

The only shame is that some console games won't ever be released on the PC

[psxphill]

That is my analysis of their behavior. It's quite possibly wrong (though I don't think so.) What it isn't, at this stage, is provably false. You keep acting as though saying "no, you're wrong!" is proof of same, and if I disagree then I'm just not objective enough, but that's not how it works.

Your statement about Microsoft trying to force you to use windows store apps is provably false. I've been running Windows 8 for a while now and they have never once tried to force me to use it.
 
You could argue that while they haven't done it yet, you think they will do. But then you're not analysing their behaviour, because they haven't actually done it or even hinted that they will. You are only analysing your guess of what their behaviour will be,
 
My analysis of your behaviour is that you're scared that if enough people prefer apps from the windows store that there is no business case to develop desktop apps or for Microsoft to support running them, then you'll be left without an operating system that you like.
 
"Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself"
 

or the developers who are now going to have to fork out to Microsoft just to be able to distribute their software? NO.

I'm a developer and I can distribute my software without paying Microsoft. If I chose to write a tablet app for Windows RT then Microsoft do have a monopoly for distribution, like Apple do on the iPad. However with Microsoft testing & hosting the app, taking payments then sending me my cut, it sounds worth paying for. If there was more than one store, then I'd need to get my software on all of them as the more stores there are the less likely it is that users will visit them all.
 
It doesn't sound great for open source who want everything for free, but someone has to pay. Even free hosting for open source projects has to make money somewhere, usually from people who don't use the open source software at all (like advertisement, where it's the customers of the products advertised that are saddled with the cost).

[persia]

Window RT forces you to use the store (Surface), Windows  8 does not and never will...

[bloodline]

Ahhh the Microsoft surface... The usability of a Playbook, the build quality of an Android and the price of an iPad... For the win :lol:

[runequester]

 
It doesn't sound great for open source who want everything for free, but someone has to pay. Even free hosting for open source projects has to make money somewhere, usually from people who don't use the open source software at all (like advertisement, where it's the customers of the products advertised that are saddled with the cost).

It's not free as in beer, it's free as in freedom.

[_ThEcRoW]

Just finished building a new gaming PC for my kid. He knows that consoles are for peasants and that PC gaming is for the master race of gamers.

It's funny because my 7 year old has the fastest rig in the house by far. :laughing:

The same master race that keeps drowning money down the toilet upgrading in order to run a game that a console will run without that hassle?. Also the ones who only seem to thing that games are fps and strategy titles?.

[partycentralpartygirl]

The only shame is that some console games won't ever be released on the PC

I assume that the only reason some are console exclusive is because of the piracy, perhaps Win8 will solve that problem. Hooray! Red Dead Redemption for PC!!!!

[partycentralpartygirl]

The same master race that keeps drowning money down the toilet upgrading in order to run a game that a console will run without that hassle?. Also the ones who only seem to thing that games are fps and strategy titles?.

That feel when running Skyrim and GTA4 on max settings making the console version look like barf.:banana::banana::banana::banana:

[partycentralpartygirl]

Spoiled brat? :razz:

I still have me coreduo setup that's working good since 2006 .

You just need a Mom that loves you more and then you will get a new Quad Core with a shiny new Radeon. Works for my son.

[commodorejohn]

I assume that the only reason some are console exclusive is because of the piracy, perhaps Win8 will solve that problem. Hooray! Red Dead Redemption for PC!!!!

That's what they like to say. (But if piracy is so little of a problem on consoles, why do console titles still get DRM and why is there talk about next-gen consoles not using physical media?) Really I expect it has much more to do with only having one or two platforms to target, instead of a multiplicity of different hardware combinations; even in these days of standardized gaming hardware libraries, that stuff's still damn complex.

[partycentralpartygirl]

That's what they like to say. (But if piracy is so little of a problem on consoles, why do console titles still get DRM and why is there talk about next-gen consoles not using physical media?) Really I expect it has much more to do with only having one or two platforms to target, instead of a multiplicity of different hardware combinations; even in these days of standardized gaming hardware libraries, that stuff's still damn complex.

Porting from XBOX360 to PC is not a big deal when compared to porting between platforms in the old days. Both use MS SDK's and DirectX. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS.... remember. Yes it is still a bit of work, guess some places don't feel the need. However piracy is still a problem in the PC world, go to that bay place to see. Console piracy is much less rampart, though still happens, however getting banned from XBOX live is a good deterrent for most people. As for PS3 piracy, no one actually plays PS3 so no one cares.

The new consoles will not be disk free. The ones after the new ones probably will be though.

[commodorejohn]

Oh, it's definitely less complicated than it used to be, but weird issues do still have a way of cropping up when you have as many possible hardware combinations (and as many potential software setups) as PCs do.

[partycentralpartygirl]

Oh, it's definitely less complicated than it used to be, but weird issues do still have a way of cropping up when you have as many possible hardware combinations (and as many potential software setups) as PCs do.

True, this is exactly why MS made the "Metro" interface. All of these problems are now gone. The desktop was a kludge stacked on kludge's .NET fixed some of these problems but a clean sheet was the way to go.

Still gonna need the desktop but development of metro apps will be hardware agnostic more or less.

[commodorejohn]

True, this is exactly why MS made the "Metro" interface. All of these problems are now gone. The desktop was a kludge stacked on kludge's .NET fixed some of these problems but a clean sheet was the way to go.

Still gonna need the desktop but development of metro apps will be hardware agnostic more or less.

That's complete nonsense. Windows has had hardware-agnostic APIs for years now. It's the quirks of driver interactions and system addons that cause bizarre behavior that makes PC debugging hectic. Metro (or any other aspect of Win8) will do jack to fix that.