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Offline trekiej

Android
« on: July 01, 2012, 06:23:38 PM »
Are you an Android fan?
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Re: Android
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 06:32:25 PM »
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Are you an Android fan?
I'm torn there..
Longtime Linux fan, so I'm glad there's an OS variant that is gaining traction.
It has some nice features...
Fragmentation doesn't bother me...
Most people will use it for what it has available for their phone model...

So, win win?

Not totally...  Why?  
It's bloated...

It has to be the most bloated and slow Linux OS I've seen...

I have fun with my Android tablet, but forget rebooting it.
Takes well over a minute to boot.

My Nokia 770 tablet running Maemo (debian variant), about 10 seconds.

My 770 plays Neo Geo emulated games really well...
My "slow" (twice as fast as the 770) Android tablet barely runs any emulators, and not with sound..

It's not the hardware..  It's the OS...

Maybe you have to slow down a machine to a crawl to make it appeal to the masses, but it just bugs me...

I still hope it succeeds..  But it bugs me nonetheless..  ;-)

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Re: Android
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 06:35:49 PM »
I was looking at Ubuntu for Android. Do you think it is any good?
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Offline desiv

Re: Android
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 06:52:37 PM »
It's an interesting hack.
If you have a super powerful phone, it's a neat add-on for Android..

But it runs on Android, it doesn't replace it..

For me, that makes it a neat project, but not much beyond that...

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Re: Android
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 07:03:20 PM »
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Are you an Android fan?


Even though Android is slow, it is ok. I think that all of the Android Java code (blue areas of diagram) is what slows Android down. The base Android Kernel and drivers are presently just patched Linux Kernel and drivers (red areas of diagram). Starting with the Linux version 3.3 Kernel, the Android Kernel patches will be in the Linux Kernel so that the Kernels will be the same at that point. Android uses Linux drivers that have an additional power management and security call added to them.

http://elinux.org/images/c/c2/Android-system-architecture.jpg
 

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Re: Android
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 07:09:17 PM »
Has anyone used the docking bay and monitor?
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Re: Android
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 07:42:53 PM »
Replaced the iPhone 3 GS I've had for 3 years with a Samsung Galaxy S3 late last week.  I'm liking it a ton, though I'm still getting used to the GUI.

I liked the iPhone, but didn't like being locked into the bolt down Apple ecosystem where I simply couldn't transfer consumables (esp books and DRM'ed video) off the Apple system to my other devices.

I'll likely invest in one of the fairly high end Android tablets in the future since my  ipad 2 is getting a little long in the tooth.

While the Android interface is not rocket science, it's a fair bit different than the Apple experience and takes a bit of getting used to.  But all in all, I'd wholeheartedly recommend Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) devices to people without any hesitation.

The non replaceable battery and lack of a memcard slot in the iphones, as well as the whole ecosystem simply got to be too much for me with the Apple device.  Put a 64 GB memory card in this new S3 and very happy with it so far, nice and responsive and heaps of free space (96 GB total, got the 32 GB S3 model).
 

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Re: Android
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2012, 08:02:44 PM »
My wife's phone is android and it seems pretty cool. Having multiple companies able to utilize it was a pretty shrewd market strategy

Apparently there'll be no Flash version going forward. Which makes the situation between android and IOS pretty interesting
 

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Re: Android
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2012, 08:14:23 PM »
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Are you an Android fan?

My work phone is an android HTC Desire Z. Am I a fan? Well it's ok, but it could be better.

I wish someone would bring sensible next generation qwerty phone to the market.
 

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Re: Android
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2012, 08:35:04 PM »
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My work phone is an android HTC Desire Z. Am I a fan? Well it's ok, but it could be better.

I wish someone would bring sensible next generation qwerty phone to the market.


out of curiosity, what are you missing in the current breed of android phones?
 

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Re: Android
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 01:25:12 AM »
I have some ICS tablets, they're ok, personally I prefer iOS, but really nothing wrong with Android.
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Re: Android
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 02:08:37 AM »
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out of curiosity, what are you missing in the current breed of android phones?


Missing having a web browser that operates the same as desktop. Also it is a worry when you turn on wifi hotspot (The best thing about my Android phones) and the desktop web pages load quicker than your phone. Although my new galaxy sIII is quite quick but a a little to Iphoneish, I had to search for every thing, where as my HTC Desire was much more straight forward.

Yes I know its only the interface but a good interface can hide some flaws in the OS, worked for windows:)

Missing a good emulator, surely a phone or tablet is quicker than an "atom" processor by now?
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Re: Android
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 02:18:47 AM »
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Are you an Android fan?
No, after having a HTC Sensation (rooted and plenty of ICS installs tested) for 6 months I went and bought an iPhone 4s! Droid has some nice features but to me it just feels like a cheap unfinished Chinese knock off!
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Re: Android
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2012, 02:38:50 AM »
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out of curiosity, what are you missing in the current breed of android phones?
QWERTY keyboard (I thought I made this point clear already).

HTC Desire Z is not current by any measure.
 

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Re: Android
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 03:03:44 AM »
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No, after having a HTC Sensation (rooted and plenty of ICS installs tested) for 6 months I went and bought an iPhone 4s! Droid has some nice features but to me it just feels like a cheap unfinished Chinese knock off!


I guess when buying a mobile phone with Android or ios it is sometimes like a lucky dip in terms of getting reliability. The quality is nice in the Iphone. The missus has the iphone 4 and I sugested for her to get it, mostly for use with Itunes and social networking, where i use mine for business.

Yes the others do look cheap in comparison. If Android phone manafacturers steered away from trying to copy the IPhone they would have a much better phone than the IPhone could ever be.

We don't want to live in a world of Microsoft VS Apple so I hope Android lifts its game. We need creative freedom.
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