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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #74 from previous page: June 25, 2012, 07:57:36 PM »
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2012, 08:00:15 PM »
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Hyperion is still here? Or is it Dickinson & Leaman now?

Hyperion is still here and will be releasing a netbook that runs OS4 any day now. No word yet on whether that netbook includes drivers but none have been explicitly promised, so there.
 

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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #76 on: June 25, 2012, 08:03:53 PM »
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Hyperion is still here and will be releasing a netbook that runs OS4 any day now. No word yet on whether that netbook includes drivers but none have been explicitly promised, so there.

nice to know OS4 will run any day now on the netbook, so when its found it doesnt everyone else will know youre to blame for giving wrong information
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #77 on: June 25, 2012, 08:10:44 PM »
Oh boy so instead of buying a 200$ netbook running windows or linux you'll get to buy a netbook running os4 for probably 5 times that price.

At least if history is any predictor of price....

Does anyone know what the projected price will be for this?
 

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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2012, 08:13:37 PM »
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Hyperion is still here and will be releasing a netbook that runs OS4 any day now. No word yet on whether that netbook includes drivers but none have been explicitly promised, so there.



Link?

The only quote I have is from Amiwest 2011:

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"Hyperion and partners are going to introduce a netbook in the first half of next year"


How do you get from "introduced" to "released"?

Link?

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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2012, 09:09:39 PM »
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WTF?!

Have you been drinking heavily before posting? Or are you hearing voices in your head? You clearly see things that aren't there, yet you come bursting out like this? I mean WTF, get a hold of yourself, or at least please sober up before going near the keyboard again!

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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2012, 09:10:20 PM »
Right you 'orrible lot. Calm down and carry on.

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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2012, 09:22:01 PM »
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However, they *are* getting paid, aren't they?


By ACube and A-eon? I doubt it. If they are, they obviously are not paying enough. I am looking this from the MorphOS developer point of view: if ACube wanted MorphOS on their hardware they pay all porting costs + premium or they develop all drivers themselves and pay less to the MorphOS team to get required support.

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AFAIK, Hyperion set their price tags themselves, it's from them the whole OS4 business stems, it's them who grants "AmigaOne" systems rights, and "AmigaOS" systems rights, entirely according to their rules and fees, absolute power.


Hyperion could have paid the driver development and bundle drivers with the OS and sell OS4 at higher price. Or sell it without it and sell it at current price.

In my opinion ACube were fools to not deliver their Sams with supported Radeon cards like Radeon 9250. There is a PCI slot so why not use it. They are fast enough to do what ever you have to do with it.

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"3rd party hardware"? What?! It's the only two "available" OS4 computers, in direct license/partnership with Hyperion, it's simply what OS4 runs on, it is the *official OS4 platform*! It's not something alien, something unrelated, some rudimentary unofficial third party gizmo that lacks relevance; we are talking graphics for the official "AmigaOne" OS4 computers! And AFAIK, Hyperion have at least claimed to pay for development before, so what changed? Hyperion is still here? Or is it Dickinson & Leaman now?


To be honest, it is none of my business.

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I also think people who speaks about Microsoft, ATI and nVidia etc in this OS4 contexts is slightly confused. There are no similarities, not anywhere.


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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2012, 09:29:54 PM »
My 2 cents on this whole issue.

1) Any OS vendor is not really responsible for driver development; their responsibility is to provide the API/documentation to allow others, usually the hardware vendor, to do so. With mainstream OSes, there's usually enough development resource to create baseline drivers for a wide selection of hardware, but last time AmigaOS was a mainstream OS was... ?

2) Given that the hardware in question is made by AMD, there's no chance they're going to create a driver. So, that leaves the task to whoever has the time and ability. I don't see that it's unreasonable for Hans to be remunerated for the effort he's put into it.

3) A-Eon are providing the (assembled) hardware and have decided to fund development of drivers for it. They didn't have to make it available to anybody else at all.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2012, 09:37:10 PM »
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2012, 09:52:42 PM »
I dont remember so much fuss about paying for api/drivers in the past.  Cybergrpahix, piccasso etc
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« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2012, 10:15:21 PM »
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2012, 10:22:39 PM »
Personally, I want to see how this system will compare to a Powerbook running MorphOS 3.0.
Will it have wireless drivers, will the video driver support 2D/3D acceleration, how fast is the processor, etc.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2012, 10:28:26 PM »
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I dont remember so much fuss about paying for api/drivers in the past.  Cybergrpahix, piccasso etc


I remember buying my BVisionPPC shortly after they first appeared. It cost me something like 200 UKP at the time (I can't recall the exact price somewhere around that price). It came with fairly basic drivers for CGX3 only, which didn't even support 24-bit pens in 8-bit mode and was a bit temperamental too.

To get proper, then up-to-date driver support for the hardware, I paid an extra 30 odd quid or so to buy CGX v4, and I certainly didn't regret that purchase.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2012, 10:43:57 PM »
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Personally, I want to see how this system will compare to a Powerbook running MorphOS 3.0.
Will it have wireless drivers, will the video driver support 2D/3D acceleration, how fast is the processor, etc.


If you talk about netbook it will never reach PowerBook performance, its better compared to Efika. It would be good to have all mentioned drivers before release, and my wild guess is these are the main reasons why it is not shown (at best it would be like first public demo of OS 4 on X1000)

With much respect to MOS development and choice of hardware, why is it so hard to see X1000 superiority purely from hardware side? There is no such PPC system avail at all. And it will take much time for OS4 to catch up, from real USB 2.0 to dual core and 64-bit but hardware makes it possible.

Only damn thing is the price tag, which will make me save for quite long time to even think of that adventure.

When I say used Macs make OS look dead I mean there can be no promo of new system that will appear as news, and no such bundled promo in today capitalism driven system means no existance at all. Off course those who really want it will find the way to MorphOS, but remember how better MOS was doing when it had Genesi and Pegasos and Efika boards.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2012, 11:04:53 PM »
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Oh boy so instead of buying a 200$ netbook running windows or linux you'll get to buy a netbook running os4 for probably 5 times that price.

I just paid $2000 for a PC laptop a couple days ago. And that's AFTER a student discount of about $500.

I thought we were directed to expect the netbook to be about $500... I'd happily pay that. but what's any of this have to do with Hans's drivers?
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