TCP/IP Over Serial

[k4lmp]

Does anybody know if the Amiga is capable of doing TCP/IP over serial?  I know it might be only slightly, if any faster than a dial-up connection, but is it doable.  I have read about using a C64 user port and connecting to a serial port on a PC, and running a server application that converts the TCP/IP and sends it over the serial connection.  I am just wondering if I could do this with my A2000.  There is an ethernet card on Ebay, but, it is very expensive.  This would also give me another thing to mess around with , and if doable, another option for everyone without buying a high dollar ethernet card.  

Thanks,
Jeff

[bbond007]

Does anybody know if the Amiga is capable of doing TCP/IP over serial?  I know it might be only slightly, if any faster than a dial-up connection, but is it doable.  I have read about using a C64 user port and connecting to a serial port on a PC, and running a server application that converts the TCP/IP and sends it over the serial connection.  I am just wondering if I could do this with my A2000.  There is an ethernet card on Ebay, but, it is very expensive.  This would also give me another thing to mess around with , and if doable, another option for everyone without buying a high dollar ethernet card.  

Thanks,
Jeff

Sure is...

You just need MiamiDX or AmiTcp with Miami's PPP device. You can get those off Aminet i believe.

I was trying to do just that with a serial bluetooth adapter on a 68000 Minimig (so I was using Amitcp because Miami needs 020+) and never got it to work because I was using windows as the PPP server, or 115200 was just too fast ... gave up one day...

this thread is where i left off...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=674035#post674035

I was using Dial-up on my A1200's back in the day so 100% possible.

[MelbourneBen]

I could never get this working with Windows. I've heard of people getting it working with Linux as the server however. Good luck.

[LoadWB]

I could never get this working with Windows. I've heard of people getting it working with Linux as the server however. Good luck.

I did get it working with Windows NT a LONG time ago.  I'll be damned if I can remember how I did it, but I know I used Routing and Remote Access Services (RRAS.)  This is available in XP/Vista/7 and it can be configured for remote access.  Worth a shot, I guess.

[omnicron10]

You can use a Palm Ethernet cradle adapter.  It has a PPP server in the device.  The palm connector is serial.  I forget which model cradle but when I have a chance I will look at mine and see which it is.

Here is the palm cradle pinout.


------  -----           -----
pin 1   DE9.4, DB25.20  PC DTR -> Minstrel DSR
pin 2   N/C             Short to Pin 1
pin 3   DE9.2, DB25.3   Minstrel TxD <- PC RxD
pin 4   DE9.7, DB25.4   Minstrel CTS -> PC RTS
pin 5   DE9.3, DB25.2   Minstrel Rxd -> PC TxD
pin 6   DE9.8, DB25.5   Minstrel RTS <- PC CTS
pin 7   N/C             GPIO input pin for detecting hotsync, contacts
                        with pin 2 when the hotsync button is pressed.
pin 8   N/C             GPIO (input only, not connected in cable)
pin 9   N/C             N/C  (spare?)
pin 10  DE9.5, DB25.7   Signal Ground

N/C     DE9.4, DB25.20  (PC DSR not connected to PalmPilot)
N/C     DE9.1, DB25.8   (PC DCD unconnected to PalmPilot)

Taken from http://pages.swcp.com/~hudson/pilot/minstrel.html

Also someone getting WINGS on C64 working with it.

http://members.shaw.ca/cue64/palmcradle.html


Then on the cradle all you have is Ethernet to the network and PPP on your amiga serial port.  If I find mine I will sell it to you if you want it.

[djos]

Does anybody know if the Amiga is capable of doing TCP/IP over serial?  I know it might be only slightly, if any faster than a dial-up connection, but is it doable.  I have read about using a C64 user port and connecting to a serial port on a PC, and running a server application that converts the TCP/IP and sends it over the serial connection.  I am just wondering if I could do this with my A2000.  There is an ethernet card on Ebay, but, it is very expensive.  This would also give me another thing to mess around with , and if doable, another option for everyone without buying a high dollar ethernet card.  

Thanks,
Jeff

I have one of these: http://www.retroswitch.com/products/flyer/

This gives my C64 full net access via serial for IRC & Telnet (also acts as a virtual 1541 disk drive) - would be great if one could be made for Miggy's!

I've Asked Brandon if he could make a Parallel version for the Amiga but haven't heard back from him yet. :cool:

[orange]

I did get it working with Windows NT a LONG time ago.  I'll be damned if I can remember how I did it, but I know I used Routing and Remote Access Services (RRAS.)  This is available in XP/Vista/7 and it can be configured for remote access.  Worth a shot, I guess.

I did it long ago by modifying this: http://bwinton.latte.ca/Palm/ppp.html
but can't remember the details. its probably better to use Linux.

also, I had managed to find some sort of Internet hub/switch that has RS232 ports and Ethernet too. it was meant to be used the other way (sharing Internet modem connection to computers on LAN) but can work this way too.

[LoadWB]

also, I had managed to find some sort of Internet hub/switch that has RS232 ports and Ethernet too. it was meant to be used the other way (sharing Internet modem connection to computers on LAN) but can work this way too.

PortMasters.  We had a few of those connected to 28.8k modems at the ISP where I used to work.  Fortunately, we had gone to PRIs before I came on-board, so these were phasing out completely.

The TI forum at AtariAge was recently discussing EIA-232 TCP/IP adapters.  Can't remember off the top of my head what they were, but I recall them not being cheap.  Think someone's running a BBS on one.

[smf]

It's easy to get it working if you have Miami(DX) and a linux box.


use the built in serial (PPP/CSLIP) driver in miami (or some other faster alternative like 8n1.device ) and in the modem tab choose "null modem" . The rest of the options can work with the defaults? i have no amiga here atm.

enable ip forwarding & masquerade on the linux side and issue the command:
"/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 38400 noauth local passive proxyarp asyncmap 0 silent persist 192.168.100.1:192.168.100.2 " remember to have the same serial speed on both the amiga and pc, 38400 works on my A2000 with A2630 @ 25Mhz

[mechy]

I have one of these: http://www.retroswitch.com/products/flyer/

This gives my C64 full net access via serial for IRC & Telnet (also acts as a virtual 1541 disk drive) - would be great if one could be made for Miggy's!

I've Asked Brandon if he could make a Parallel version for the Amiga but haven't heard back from him yet. :cool:

I hang in a channel with the guys who make these. they dont seem to have much interest in amiga anything.. seem quite short sighted. but it would be incredibly slow.

some of you might try the lantronix UDS-10, UDS-100 etc, they connect to serial and give ethernet.

[nyteschayde]

I hang in a channel with the guys who make these. they dont seem to have much interest in amiga anything.. seem quite short sighted. but it would be incredibly slow.

some of you might try the lantronix UDS-10, UDS-100 etc, they connect to serial and give ethernet.

Have you tried the lantronix stuff? Seems promising; they even have a serial to wifi option.

[djos]

Have you tried the lantronix stuff? Seems promising; they even have a serial to wifi option.

looks like the  UDS1100 has replaced the 10 & 100 models but at $149 USD it isnt cheap!

[k4lmp]

Anybody know of a good serial driver to replace serial.device to speed up the serial port?  Mine instead of the next step above 19,200 being 38,400, it is 31, some odd number. and that is it.  If there is a better one, can I rename the file serial.device?

[LoadWB]

Anybody know of a good serial driver to replace serial.device to speed up the serial port?  Mine instead of the next step above 19,200 being 38,400, it is 31, some odd number. and that is it.  If there is a better one, can I rename the file serial.device?

I got good results using artser.device and BaudBandit.device.  See here.  Available on AmiNet, too, I believe.

[smf]

Anybody know of a good serial driver to replace serial.device to speed up the serial port?

http://aminet.net/package/comm/misc/8n1