amibay broken again?

[desiv]

Anyways, anyone hear anything about when it back up?

Nothing specific yet..
From what I hear, the planned upgrade involved taking Apache from 1.3 to 2.x (among other things), and that broke things (I would expect it to)..

Last I heard, the Amibay admins have identified what they believe is the issue with Apache  and notified the hosting company...

desiv

[broken]

Hopefully, someone over there is working on combining this Pulu dudes spam into one single thread. Whoever thinks listing dozens of games separately (giving each one their own thread), needs their ever loving head checked.  

I brought up that issue in the past and was shot down.

Basically many sellers are too lazy to maintain and update their sell threads and want to spam the **** out of the forum with tons of For Sale threads. So instead of maintaining one thread, they have to watch many. Fantastic. :insert rolleyes:


When ever I list stuff I try to group it into a single thread unless there is too much stuff (which hasn't been a problem for me) or its stuff that should be in another thread or another portion of the forum. Have 10 hardware items for sale? Great, break it up into 2 or 3 threads and maybe stagger them a day or so apart if you want to be considerate of your fellow Amibayers.


Nothing worse than posting up a For Sale thread and having some jackass come along and post up 25 different threads each with one item in them completely driving your thread off  the first page.





Ohhh and yes, the admins should have let people know well in advance of the possible downtime in case they had deals in progress (cause, ya know, it is primarily a marketplace) so they could exchange email info or alt contact details in case of troubles. They might not of have known it was going to be down this long, but they must have had advance warning from their hosting company of maintenance and they should have gave a warning about it.

[ipod_sock]

Cheers for the info save2600 and desiv

[Lurch]

Does anyone have contact details for mkl, was trying to contact him re and IDE adapter.

[ravard]

I have worked with LAMP and WAMP systems in the past. If there is anything I can help with let me know. Thanks.

[Terse]

It depends on the infraction. If it's general trolling the member is often given a warning but if anyone breaks the trading rules or thumbs their nose at an Amibay moderator... "Hasta la vista baby"! :uzi:

I once posted an old Apple II photo in their photo forum and said I’d gotten it for $200 at a thrift store. The post was removed because it contained a dollar amount in the body of the text.

Some threads above and below it also contained dollar amounts, but were not touched.  Amibay’s moderators all appear to interpret their forum rules differently or randomly.

I appreciate the strict moderation, but the poorly trained moderators make that site too unpleasant to use.

By the way, if I posted this on Amibay, it would certainly get me banned.

[desiv]

I once posted an old Apple II photo in their photo forum and said I’d gotten it for $200 at a thrift store. The post was removed because it contained a dollar amount in the body of the text.

That would get the price removed, that's for sure.
They are very cautious about "price driving" types of information.

Some threads above and below it also contained dollar amounts, but were not touched.

Those should have been also.
They are very complete at removing prices for items that might be sold on amibay.
I'm surprised they missed any..  It's really infrequent that they don't delete that info.  ;-)

Amibay’s moderators all appear to interpret their forum rules differently or randomly.

I think some of that might be related to the fact that there are numerous moderators.
I've seen some forums where moderators have posted, and then another moderator will "edit" something that the first mod didn't get.
Missed?  Different interpretations?  Both...

I appreciate the strict moderation, but the poorly trained moderators make that site too unpleasant to use.

I'm sure they will dock them in what they pay them for those errors.. ;-)
None of these mods are being paid.

By the way, if I posted this on Amibay, it would certainly get me banned.

Not for a first infraction, but it would get edited/removed and you'd be warned...

;-)

desiv
(IMHO, I'm not a mod there...)

[commodorejohn]

I once posted an old Apple II photo in their photo forum and said I’d gotten it for $200 at a thrift store. The post was removed because it contained a dollar amount in the body of the text.

Some threads above and below it also contained dollar amounts, but were not touched.  Amibay’s moderators all appear to interpret their forum rules differently or randomly.

By the way, if I posted this on Amibay, it would certainly get me banned.

When was this? I've been a member there since 2010, and as far as I've observed the rules are quite consistently applied, and moderation is generally as gentle as it can be, unless the member in question is an obvious troll or discovered to be a scammer.

[Terse]

That would get the price removed, that's for sure.
They are very cautious about "price driving" types of information.


Those should have been also.
They are very complete at removing prices for items that might be sold on amibay.
I'm surprised they missed any..  It's really infrequent that they don't delete that info.  ;-)


I think some of that might be related to the fact that there are numerous moderators.
I've seen some forums where moderators have posted, and then another moderator will "edit" something that the first mod didn't get.
Missed?  Different interpretations?  Both...


I'm sure they will dock them in what they pay them for those errors.. ;-)
None of these mods are being paid.


Not for a first infraction, but it would get edited/removed and you'd be warned...

;-)

desiv
(IMHO, I'm not a mod there...)

Sounds like the underlying issue is a set of rules either too complex or too different from other forums for posters or moderators to internalize.  Glad you have memorized the rules so you can rebut me point by point.

But when you can't feel out the rules by reading the tone of other posts, something is wrong with the forum.

[desiv]

Sounds like the underlying issue is a set of rules either too complex or too different from other forums for posters or moderators to internalize.

They are complicated.  But, as it's a trading site, I am OK with that..  I expect it to be very different..

Glad you have memorized the rules so you can rebut me point by point.

You're welcome..
..  Oh, that was an insult..  HA!!  Funny!!  
Seriously, I've been a member there (and on lots of other Amiga sites) for a long time, so I'm fairly familiar with the rules.
But when I first joined, I got some things wrong..
I got some PMs..  It is a different site rule-wise..

But when you can't feel out the rules by reading the tone of other posts, something is wrong with the forum.

Yes and no..
It's not perfect..  There are issues..
There's lots of talk about it all the time, and they tweak the rules from time to time to try to improve it..

They have some "different" rules that take some getting used to..
You can't always judge by the tone of other messages, unless you read ALL the other messages, which isn't realistic.
Also, they strongly encourage people to read (and really read) the rules, but that's not realistic either (I know I didn't read them thoroughly initially).

So, you end up with encouraging reading the rules, and "reminders" about it when you miss it..
Once you get it, it's pretty easy to follow.

It's not for everyone, and that's OK...  Not all sites are for all people..
Doesn't mean the site is bad..  Just is what it is..

Have a good one..

desiv

p.s.  Back on topic...
I'm surprised they are still down..  Must be a serious compatibility issue, or the hosting site really isn't familiar with Apache 2.x....

[tokyoracer]

The rules are there to keep it safe, at the end of the day we are talking about hard earned money here, not something that should be taken advantage of. I do agree there have been countless times where I have seen things not being moderated but others have, it is inconsistant but there again nobody is perfect.

As for your post removal I doubt they would do that unless you infrindged several rules. They probably edited out the price which is what they would and should do. I can't say I agree with all the rules but i'd like to believe they are there with good intentions in mind for our safety.

I like how people complain so much on this forum. Is it really that hard just to avoid stuff that you don't like? I guess trolling is much more fun...

[tokyoracer]

The rules are there to keep it safe, at the end of the day we are talking about hard earned money here, not something that should be taken advantage of. I do agree there have been countless times where I have seen things not being moderated but others have, it is inconsistant but there again nobody is perfect.

As for your post removal I doubt they would do that unless you infrindged several rules. They probably edited out the price which is what they would and should do. I can't say I agree with all the rules but i'd like to believe they are there with good intentions in mind for our safety.

I like how people complain so much on this forum. Is it really that hard just to avoid stuff that you don't like? I guess trolling is much more fun...

[magnetic]

Amibay is run by a bunch of egoist geek control freaks.  Internet stalking, privacy invasions, ip tracking, is standard procedure for these people. This kind of behavior is everything we hate in Apple and Microsoft and is against the spirit of Amiga.  And they wonder why their site gets hacked all the time! Lulz.

Amibay is a disgrace compared to the once great Amibench.

[commodorejohn]

Amibay is run by a bunch of egoist geek control freaks.  Internet stalking, privacy invasions, ip tracking, is standard procedure for these people. This kind of behavior is everything we hate in Apple and Microsoft and is against the spirit of Amiga.  And they wonder why their site gets hacked all the time! Lulz.

Uh, can you point me to any time anybody's been tracked who wasn't a scammer? I've seen plenty of dumbasses trying to cheat members out of their money and get tracked down via IP logs and publically-available information which is then handed on to the proper authorities, but I can't recall anybody else being given a hard time. (The only edge case I can think of is AppleIIFan, who was a known repeat scammer in the Apple II community and came over to Amibay allegedly trying to go straight; I didn't really agree with the mods' preemptive action there, but he did have a history.)

And if you think logging IPs is "invasion of privacy," you don't really understand much about how the Internet works.

[ZeBeeDee]

I've been banned from there 3 times and still go back to both buy and sell.
 
I'm waiting for Merlin to come on down and make good on his threat to beat up a 65yo woman in order to get at me. I'd even pay his train fare but he hasn't taken me up on the offer yet

[commodorejohn]

I've been banned from there 3 times and still go back to both buy and sell.

What were you banned for, if you don't mind my asking?