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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #134 on: August 18, 2012, 09:02:06 AM »
went and checked,
mine does default to PAL, if I select NTSC the GBS crashes.... auto adjust might fix it, but not going to try as I'll loose my settings :p
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #135 on: August 18, 2012, 09:02:40 AM »
Interesting, my rev6a came with an 8372a from Germany and jp4 is closed - I might install a switch too.
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #136 on: August 18, 2012, 09:04:20 AM »
That is weird, my GBS doesn't like pal at all????

I did discover tho that the NTSC output works with my Samsung LCD monitor via miggy-VGA adapter but PAL doesn't. I'm thinking of making a sync stripper for my GBS to see if that fixes my PAL issue.
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #137 on: August 18, 2012, 09:07:58 AM »
...isn't 8372A the standard PAL A500 chip? :P
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #138 on: August 18, 2012, 09:09:50 AM »
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...isn't 8372A the standard PAL A500 chip? :P
Yep, Standard on rev6a iirc
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #139 on: August 18, 2012, 09:11:29 AM »
but haven't you changed it to a 8372AB?
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #140 on: August 18, 2012, 09:37:04 AM »
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but haven't you changed it to a 8372AB?
I'm not using it ATM as the it needs 2mb chip ram to work and Tomthul is still working out the kinks in my 2mb chip ram trapdoor card.
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #141 on: August 18, 2012, 09:42:45 AM »
oh...

then why is yours NTSC?!? :P
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #142 on: August 18, 2012, 09:48:35 AM »
btw, the difference between my two "stock" benchmark tests, was one had the TomThul 8meg added, the other did not.

also, the KS1.3 resulted in slightly higher scores than the 3.1 ;)

running the test with KS3.1 resulted in it scoring about 3 points less than yours :p
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #143 on: August 18, 2012, 10:09:25 AM »
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oh...

then why is yours NTSC?!? :P
I'm really not sure to be honest, kinda puzzling.

Hehe, sneaky :D
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #144 on: August 19, 2012, 08:44:11 AM »
Booting a 1.3 floppy in 68000 mode with ks1.3 it crashed with a yellow screen? While booting. It seems the mmr is badly unstable in 68000 mode with the a590 scsi controller connected.
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #145 on: August 19, 2012, 08:50:35 AM »
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That is weird, my GBS doesn't like pal at all????

I did discover tho that the NTSC output works with my Samsung LCD monitor via miggy-VGA adapter but PAL doesn't. I'm thinking of making a sync stripper for my GBS to see if that fixes my PAL issue.
Btw, I did some mucking about today, I used Miggy -> scart -> RGB-Component transcoder -> GBS-8220 and I was able to use PAL & NTSC modes with no issues. I suspect that the built-in sync separator in my Component transcoder may have helped?

So then I tried using H/V-Sync + RGB direct from my Miggy to the GBS but couldnt get this to work at all for some reason???
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #146 on: August 19, 2012, 09:34:49 AM »
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So then I tried using H/V-Sync + RGB direct from my Miggy to the GBS but couldnt get this to work at all for some reason???

I do believe one of the sync signals is reverse polarity, positive instead of negative, or negative instead of positive.

I forget which one, but that's why it doesn't work ;)
 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #147 on: August 19, 2012, 09:53:27 AM »
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I do believe one of the sync signals is reverse polarity, positive instead of negative, or negative instead of positive.

I forget which one, but that's why it doesn't work ;)
That explains a lot! :D

Im thinking of making a Miggy to Female VGA lead for the GBS just for fun and to see if it works.
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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2012, 10:06:54 AM »
I found a 36Mhz crystal in a box? *shrugs*
Then I found a 46Mhz crystal on a sound card? that didn't work :p



 

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Re: My A500 "project" pics, details, build log?
« Reply #149 from previous page: August 27, 2012, 08:52:56 AM »
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oh...

then why is yours NTSC?!? :P

Found the cause and Fixed it, the previous owner of my mobo had joined jp4 together - I fixed it today and now my miggy defaults to PAL and the correct clock speed 7.09Mhz.

I also found that the below settings on my GBS work fairly well with both PAL and NTSC:

Tweaked for: 800x600 res:
HPOS 50
VPOS 14
HSIZE 50
VSIZE 56
CLAMP ST 97
CLAMP SD 00

EDIT: and just discovered that PAL works with the GBS defaults now my miggy is running @ the correct clock-cycles! :p
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